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Nida_e_Khair
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 3:34 AM
Quote: These sects are there because of differences and disagreements on Hadith rather than disagreements over the Quran.
I say these sects are there because of differences over Islam as a whole. Like the issue of Prophet 'Eesa: some say he was god, some say son of God, etc. |
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Zulfee
USA
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Posted - Sunday, July 23, 2006 - 1:51 AM
Nida e khair
YOU ARE WRONG!! |
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raushan
UNITED ARAB EMIRATES
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Posted - Sunday, July 23, 2006 - 11:38 AM
Quran suggests us in case of differences: 004.059 YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger, and those charged with authority among you. If ye differ in anything among yourselves, refer it to Allah and His Messenger, if ye do believe in Allah and the Last Day: That is best, and most suitable for final determination. PICKTHAL: O ye who believe! Obey Allah, and obey the messenger and those of you who are in authority; and if ye have a dispute concerning any matter, refer it to Allah and the messenger if ye are (in truth) believers in Allah and the Last Day. That is better and more seemly in the end. SHAKIR: O you who believe! obey Allah and obey the Messenger and those in authority from among you; then if you quarrel about anything, refer it to Allah and the Messenger, if you believe in Allah and the last day; this is better and very good in the end. |
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raushan
UNITED ARAB EMIRATES
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Posted - Sunday, July 23, 2006 - 11:43 AM
023.052 YUSUFALI: And verily this Brotherhood of yours is a single Brotherhood, and I am your Lord and Cherisher: therefore fear Me (and no other). PICKTHAL: And lo! this your religion is one religion and I am your Lord, so keep your duty unto Me. SHAKIR: And surely this your religion is one religion and I am your Lord, therefore be careful (of your duty) to Me.
023.053 YUSUFALI: But people have cut off their affair (of unity), between them, into sects: each party rejoices in that which is with itself. PICKTHAL: But they (mankind) have broken their religion among them into sects, each group rejoicing in its tenets. SHAKIR: But they cut off their religion among themselves into sects, each part rejoicing in that which is with them.
023.054 YUSUFALI: But leave them in their confused ignorance for a time. PICKTHAL: So leave them in their error till a time. SHAKIR: Therefore leave them in their overwhelming ignorance till |
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Zulfee
USA
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Posted - Sunday, July 23, 2006 - 11:45 AM
What is its relationship with the sectarianism? |
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raushan
UNITED ARAB EMIRATES
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Posted - Sunday, July 23, 2006 - 11:56 AM
034.026 YUSUFALI: Say: "Our Lord will gather us together and will in the end decide the matter between us (and you) in truth and justice: and He is the one to decide, the One Who knows all." PICKTHAL: Say: Our Lord will bring us all together, then He will judge between us with truth. He is the All-knowing Judge. SHAKIR: Say: Our Lord will gather us together, then will He judge between us with the truth; and He is the greatest Judge, the All-knowing. |
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raushan
UNITED ARAB EMIRATES
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Posted - Sunday, July 23, 2006 - 12:02 PM
007.198 YUSUFALI: If thou callest them to guidance, they hear not. Thou wilt see them looking at thee, but they see not. PICKTHAL: And if ye (Muslims) call them to the guidance they hear not; and thou (Muhammad) seest them looking toward thee, but they see not. SHAKIR: And if you invite them to guidance, they do not hear; and you see them looking towards you, yet they do not see.
007.199 YUSUFALI: Hold to forgiveness; command what is right; But turn away from the ignorant. PICKTHAL: Keep to forgiveness (O Muhammad), and enjoin kindness, and turn away from the ignorant. SHAKIR: Take to forgiveness and enjoin good and turn aside from the ignorant. |
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Zulfee
USA
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Posted - Sunday, July 23, 2006 - 12:03 PM
What is its relationship with the sectarianism? |
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Zulfee
USA
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Posted - Sunday, July 23, 2006 - 12:11 PM
raushan, you have presented a sophisticated way of backbiting Muslims like you and your team. |
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raushan
UNITED ARAB EMIRATES
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Posted - Sunday, July 23, 2006 - 12:32 PM
dear zulfee, thanks for your comments..
I ve quoted those verses just becoz i thought these are related with guidence in case of differences..
I hoped that someone who has sound knowledge of quran will elaborate these so that we can get guidence..and our discussions will be focussed on quran only..
If you dont think these verses has anything to do with secretarian differnces ,you may be right and I honour your opinion.
plz ignore my posts if you think my intentions are wrong and against muslims or islam..
wassalam |
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Zulfee
USA
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Posted - Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 2:18 AM
quote: plz ignore my posts if you think my intentions are wrong.
Yes, Of course!! |
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nonstoptaxi
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 7:40 AM
mr.zulfee..you and your whole team are WRONG!! |
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Zulfee
USA
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Posted - Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 6:42 PM
Another front, back and the side kick- Nonstoptaxi,
Nonstoptaxi, Only you and your whole team are WRONG!!! Proofs are there. See there!! You and your team have the front, back and the sidekicks and all the satanic tricks. May Allah protect everyone from you and your nonsense Team!
Those who don’t believe in the ‘Noble Quran’ and ‘One God’ but believe in the corrupt fabricated hadith, are not sincere with the hadith as well. If some hadith comes in the way of their intentions they call it un-authenticated by their own. If they don’t believe in the Noble Quran and totally insincere with their chosen fabricated source, ‘so then how they corrupt are!!’
They are corrupt form of EHL HADITH and call them free of sectarianism.
Only Allah can guide them. |
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Zulfee
USA
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Posted - Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 6:42 PM
Another front, back and the side kick- Nonstoptaxi,
Nonstoptaxi, Only you and your whole team are WRONG!!! Proofs are there. See there!! You and your team have the front, back and the sidekicks and all the satanic tricks. May Allah protect everyone from you and your nonsense Team!
Those who don’t believe in the ‘Noble Quran’ and ‘One God’ but believe in the corrupt fabricated hadith, are not sincere with the hadith as well. If some hadith comes in the way of their intentions they call it un-authenticated by their own. If they don’t believe in the Noble Quran and totally insincere with their chosen fabricated source, ‘so then how they corrupt are!!’
They are corrupt form of EHL HADITH and call them free of sectarianism.
Only Allah can guide them. |
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Zulfee
USA
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Posted - Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 6:46 PM
NONSTOPTAXI, YOU AND YOUR ARE CORRUPT FORM OF EHL HADITH AND CALL THEM FREE OF SECTARIANISM. |
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nonstoptaxi
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Monday, July 31, 2006 - 12:08 PM
zulfee,plz reading this may be useful ,
Control Your Pressure
The average adult has about five liters of blood flowing through the body via an intricate network of blood vessels called arteries, veins and capillaries. Blood is essential to life for it delivers oxygen from our lungs to our body tissues, and carries harmful waste to the kidneys to be removed. Blood also transports hormones from our glands to various parts of our bodies, as well as vitamins and nutrients from our digestive tracts.
When our blood vessels become clogged due to a plaque buildup of cholesterol and fat, our hearts must work twice as hard to pump enough blood to our vital organs. This is what causes our blood pressure to surge.
As the pressure increases inside of our arteries, veins and capillaries, our hearts become even more overworked. Over time, our hearts grow larger in an effort to compensate for the extra workload and eventually they become weaker.
When you add obesity, smoking, or diabetes to the mix, the risk of heart attack, stroke or kidney disease for those with high blood pressure increases dramatically. This is why it is important to know what your blood pressure is.
Experts recommend that you maintain a blood pressure lower than 140/90 mm Hg at rest. The higher number represents the maximum pressure exerted when the heart contracts (systole). It reflects the stiffness of the large arteries near the heart, and the volume of blood pumped into them. The lower number represents the pressure exerted when the heart begins to relax between beats (diastole), just before the next contraction. It measures the amount of constriction of the body's smaller arteries or arterioles. |
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