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Nida_e_Khair
PAKISTAN
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 Posted - Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 2:49 PM 
 I don't know Zulfee, maybe you're right; maybe I am Nida-e-Sharr in the eyes of Allah. But even if I am what you say I am, you have no right to call me that. May Allah bestow guidance upon you because you're really in need of it. |
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Zulfee
USA
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 Posted - Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 3:24 PM
You said: good people like student1
You told a lie!! |
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Nida_e_Khair
PAKISTAN
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 Posted - Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 3:28 PM
| I did not tell a lie! These people are good. Know why? Because they have the decency to tolerate you. |
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Zulfee
USA
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Posted - Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 3:47 PM
| You are again telling a lie!!!!!!!!! |
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Nida_e_Khair
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 6:41 PM
Listen Zulfee, I'm a very busy person. So from now on, I won't feel the need to respond to your posts. Allah Haafiz brother. This is my last reply to you. May Allah guide you and bestow His mercy and loving kindness upon you.
To you your way, and to me mine.  |
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raushan
UNITED ARAB EMIRATES
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Posted - Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 8:58 AM
this you had to do in the very beginnig when u diverted from the topic.
thnx Allah ,u finally responded in a mannered way. |
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Nida_e_Khair
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 9:57 AM
| Assalaamu 'Alaikum raushan. You are addressing me, right? Actually, I'm new to this forum; I joined a few days back. I had no idea what kind of person Zulfee was, so I ended up arguing with him. But then I realised it was getting nowhere, so I decided to quit answering him. But anyway, if you have any views about the topic, do let me know. |
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sksamsherali
INDIA
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Posted - Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 12:53 PM
Salam to All,
I am adding here my opinion, either you can accept it or not.
The Quran condemns all sects. All sects in Islam, whether Sunni, Shias, Ahmaddis,Ismailli......etc have disagreements about hadith and sunnah attributed to the prophet. However, these same sects have no disagreements about the Quran.
It is sources of religious law, stories, conjecture, etc. outside the Quran which have created these sects. At the end of this article three "authentic" hadith have been produced about the last sermon of the prophet. The different versions/conjecture gave rise to sects.
Nation of Islam, a large political group for African American, although have achieved a great political gain for the African Americans in the USA, they produced their own sources other than the Quran and follow other sources besides the Quran for religious laws. This is completely condemned in the TRUE Islam. Many of the followers of the Nation of Islam however are more acceptable to the TRUE Islam when they get exposed to it as most of them are well educated and intelligent. Like all the other sects as soon as the followers of the Nation of Islam decide to follow ONLY the word of God in the Quran for religious law and leave the words of man for political moves ,they will find the truth and be guided.
These sects of Islam ( Sunni, Shias, Ahmaddis, NOI....etc.) do exactly the same thing - they follow sources and religious scholars, instead of the Quran.
[6:159] Those who divide themselves into sects do not belong with
you. Their judgment rests with GOD, then He will inform
them of everything they had done.
[30:32] (Do not fall in idol worship,) like those who divide
their religion into sects; each party rejoicing with what
they have.
[42:14] Ironically, they broke up into sects only after the
knowledge had come to them, due to jealousy and
resentment among themselves. If it were not for a
predetermined decision from your Lord to respite them for
a definite interim, they would have been judged
immediately. Indeed, the later generations who inherited
the scripture are full of doubts.
The last sermon of the prophet witnessed by the thousands has
three versions. The versions the references are listed below.
1) I leave with you Quran and Sunnah
Muwatta, 46/3
2) I leave with you Quran and Ahl al-bayt
Muslim 44/4, Nu2408; ibn hanbal 4/366; darimi 23/1, nu 3319.
3) I leave you for the Quran alone you shall uphold it.
Muslim 15/19, nu 1218; ibn Majah 25/84, Abu dawud 11/56.
Because the majority of the Muslims follow conjecture (hadith and
sunnah) instead of Quran alone (17:46) as our Creator has
commanded the "Muslims" are divided into sects. These sects are
there because of differences and disagreements on Hadith rather
than disagreements over the Quran.
Samsher |
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Zulfee
USA
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Posted - Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 3:37 PM
Nida e khair said: Listen Zulfee, I'm a very busy person. So from now on, I won't feel the need to respond to your posts.
I didn’t ask to respond. |
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Zulfee
USA
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Posted - Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 6:23 PM
Nida e khair said: To you your way, and to me mine.
Why don’t you say, ‘to me God’s way’? After saying ‘mine’ you have confirmed that you worship you own whim and the lust.
Nida e khair said: May Allah guide you and bestow His mercy and loving kindness upon you.
I also do the same pray for you, which you really deserve more!! |
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Zulfee
USA
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Posted - Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 6:44 PM
quote:
Nation of Islam, a large political group for African American, although have achieved a great political gain for the African Americans in the USA, they produced their own sources other than the Quran and follow other sources besides the Quran for religious laws. This is completely condemned in the TRUE Islam.
You are Correct!! |
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Nida_e_Khair
PAKISTAN
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 Posted - Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 7:01 PM
| Please refer to my reply in "The Beauty of the Beard (poem)". |
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Zulfee
USA
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Posted - Saturday, July 15, 2006 - 1:44 AM
Nida e khair,
I also do the same prayers for you, which you really deserve more!!
May we see you in the paradise! May God not make you the fuel of Hell fire! |
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Nida_e_Khair
PAKISTAN
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 Posted - Saturday, July 15, 2006 - 3:24 PM
Thanks a lot for your prayers! May we continue to pray for each other. Aameen.
Wassalaam. Yahdeekumullah! |
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Zulfee
USA
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Posted - Monday, July 17, 2006 - 3:23 PM
[quoteThe last sermon of the prophet witnessed by the thousands has
three versions. The versions the references are listed below.
1) I leave with you Quran and Sunnah
Muwatta, 46/3
2) I leave with you Quran and Ahl al-bayt
Muslim 44/4, Nu2408; ibn hanbal 4/366; darimi 23/1, nu 3319.
3) I leave you for the Quran alone you shall uphold it.
Muslim 15/19, nu 1218; ibn Majah 25/84, Abu dawud 11/56.
Because the majority of the Muslims follow conjecture (hadith and
sunnah) instead of Quran alone (17:46) as our Creator has
commanded the "Muslims" are divided into sects. These sects are
there because of differences and disagreements on Hadith rather
than disagreements over the Quran.
So those who believes in any one of these hadith are true sectarians!! |
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Zulfee
USA
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Posted - Monday, July 17, 2006 - 3:23 PM
[quoteThe last sermon of the prophet witnessed by the thousands has
three versions. The versions the references are listed below.
1) I leave with you Quran and Sunnah
Muwatta, 46/3
2) I leave with you Quran and Ahl al-bayt
Muslim 44/4, Nu2408; ibn hanbal 4/366; darimi 23/1, nu 3319.
3) I leave you for the Quran alone you shall uphold it.
Muslim 15/19, nu 1218; ibn Majah 25/84, Abu dawud 11/56.
Because the majority of the Muslims follow conjecture (hadith and
sunnah) instead of Quran alone (17:46) as our Creator has
commanded the "Muslims" are divided into sects. These sects are
there because of differences and disagreements on Hadith rather
than disagreements over the Quran.
So those who believes in any one of these hadith are true sectarians!! |
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