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ibrahim

PAKISTAN
Posted - Tuesday, November 09, 2010  -  5:21 AM Reply with quote
جزاک اللہ
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شکریہ
saba2
Moderator

PAKISTAN
Posted - Tuesday, November 09, 2010  -  10:40 AM Reply with quote
Thank you Ibrahim sahab, yes the post should not be too long because as safimera pointed out too the debate cannot continue and it is difficult to read such long passages, another request as this is primarily a forum where the main language is english please post your views in that language.
isfi22

PAKISTAN
Posted - Tuesday, November 09, 2010  -  2:32 PM Reply with quote
Salam and ok my forum mates. I respect your views and orders and say you all Good buy from here.
saba2
Moderator

PAKISTAN
Posted - Tuesday, November 09, 2010  -  3:58 PM Reply with quote
Isfi it would be nice if you continued we all appreciate and respect your views.
safimera

CANADA
Posted - Saturday, November 13, 2010  -  12:30 PM Reply with quote
isfi22==> salam
i think u have taken it seriously.....lols
believe me !! u were always very well expressive in english as well...as u can see in your wordings here u clearly expressed that u did not like the suggestions of some forum mates....lols.....
so try sometimes in english as well.

anyway I found all of your lectures very informative and close to the facts..keep it up....

by the way . tell me about this
"itehade islami group"...what is it???
sounds intersting!!!!
saba2
Moderator

PAKISTAN
Posted - Sunday, November 14, 2010  -  5:16 PM Reply with quote
Salam , good to hear from you safimera, we don't seem to hear from you at all these days,are you very busy? Isfi can I please make one last request, Try and post your thoughts in english remember there are other members who don't know urdu and so they can't participate. smaller paragraphs will ensure that everyone will read, even those who don't have the time or the patience.
You are a strong believer of revolution or change so this is your hurdle, do you give up now?I know you are not a quitter so please give it a try and be on the forum.
isfi22

PAKISTAN
Posted - Monday, November 15, 2010  -  4:20 AM Reply with quote
Was Salam Waramatullah Respected Brother Safimera>>>

Yes you r right that I have taken such comments and requests and suggestions seriously, because I have told all my reasons before. If our moderators consider those points and reasons reject able then i feel that there is no other option left except leaving. So I did what I felt sincerely.

Ethad-e-Islami is a good yahoo group. You can join it by following this link with the subscription request:
Ethad-e-Islami@yahoogroups.com
I have done so many debates in this group and some very key and healthy debates are going on. For example on “Fatwaha-e-Kufr” and “Sucide Bombing”.

Was Salam Respected Aunt>>>

I will always be thankful to your kindness and useful advices. I understand all valid points you have pointed out in this regard. I am not denying any of them. I accept and understand and fell strong and valid them all. But I have also some genuine excuses which I think my mates are not considering. So I strongly and sincerely feel it better that do not disturb you guys any more and keep touch with this forum as an observer and participate when you feel that you can participate in any debate with following all regulations and formats and with the standard language. So I don’t think that my decision is wrong and I have to change it.

Was Salam to all Respected Friends and Brothers and Sisters and specially to Uncles and Aunties.
safimera

CANADA
Posted - Tuesday, November 16, 2010  -  3:02 AM Reply with quote
isfi22==>
I do not know from which angle you think your english is NOT good.....

whenever u said anything in english , it was well expressive.....

I think a person who has vision, knowledge, wisdom and ability to express in english is not realizing his responsibility towards this great cause of Islam....

nowadays china, france and Russia like countries are also compelled to introduce their own english channels...

because it has taken the place of international language......

last point: may be some guys who can communicate with us only because of english, get benefitted from your lecture....who knows..

this is I am saying b/c i do NOT think your english is NOT of good level.....

God knows better.....
saba2
Moderator

PAKISTAN
Posted - Tuesday, November 16, 2010  -  3:47 AM Reply with quote
Eid Mubarak

Thank you safimera, see isfi we all think you can write pretty well in english,
"I think a person who has vision, knowledge, wisdom and ability to express in english is not realizing his responsibility towards this great cause of Islam...." I agree and know if you give yourself the chance you will manage it very well..... so no more talk of quitting okay?
isfi22

PAKISTAN
Posted - Tuesday, November 16, 2010  -  4:21 AM Reply with quote
Respected Safimera and Sweet Aunt>>>

Salam and Eid Mubarak to you all in advance on my side and ok now this time I will try to be simpler and more expressive to let you understand my real point in this regard. When I want to reply in a simple way I have the ability to response in this disputed or on the table of debate Language. But when I am participating in any scientific (Ilmi) debate or commenting on some one’s views or criticizing some points or point of views, I do not feel my self relax and comfortable if I have to express my observations and opinions and criticism in this Language. So how you people could force me to must express my scientific thoughts and religious views in this Language if I am not feeling my self with this language comfortable and easy in this ground. This is my point. May be if I try on your demand to express my comments and opinions in this Language I could write an enough explanatory writing. But as per my past experiences I am not seeing this happening.

I understand that this is an international language and every person of the world should try to be more familiar and frequent in this language and he has the ability to think and write his views and emotions and experiences in this language. But if some one have not yet prepared his self for this level how can you blame and ashamed on it. This is a goal and every one should try to achieve it, but if some one is in the way of achievement how can you blame him and forced him to show an attitude of an achiever.

I understand all valid points and potential benefits of using this language and I am agree on them with you guys. Mind it that I am not denying any of them. I am only excusing on my behalf that I am not comfortable and not yet have taken fully command to write and express my religious thinking in this International Language. If I can’t afford some thing why you guys are continuously forcing me to afford it.

But ok I will not quit and try to fulfill your wishes and orders and try to express my all little knowledge, wisdom and vision in this Language if I could or if in the shape of child wordings. But plz don’t restrict me to not participate in my beloved and native language. So I feel my self here relaxed and comfortable. Thanks and Best wishes of Eid and Life hereafter to all of you Lovely and Caring and Loving and Guiding Elders….
saba2
Moderator

PAKISTAN
Posted - Tuesday, November 16, 2010  -  4:39 PM Reply with quote
I am so glad you are not quitting and happy that you are going to try and post your views in english. I am sad and upset that you feel I think less of you for writing in urdu. I apologize if I gave that impression.
safimera

CANADA
Posted - Wednesday, November 17, 2010  -  1:19 AM Reply with quote
good luck isfi22...

Eid mubarak to all...

quote:

"islamic socialism: Basic for all,simplicity for wealthy"
saba2
Moderator

PAKISTAN
Posted - Friday, December 10, 2010  -  5:27 PM Reply with quote
Salam Isfi, how are you? We haven't heard from you in so long. It seems you are still upset, it's okay if you right in urdu but don't disappear. How is your father doing? I hope he is keeping well.
isfi22

PAKISTAN
Posted - Saturday, December 11, 2010  -  4:48 PM Reply with quote
Was Salam, m ok and coooool. Uncountable Thanks to my God. My father is also ok but still on bed. I m not upset but too busy now a days. I have written some articles and other things, but as usual in urdu. I will paste my recent writings here for you guys. I m feeling that all of our Studying Islam forum mates are loosing their interest and progress to discuss matters and issues here. I don't know the reason. But i wish that this forum keep alive and hot and full of healthy and creative activities. Ok will catch you guys later. Thanks again for your kindness and remembering me. God bless and help us all, Ameen.
saba2
Moderator

PAKISTAN
Posted - Monday, December 13, 2010  -  5:09 PM Reply with quote
Isfi I don't know the reason either, maybe it is lack of time or interest or circumstances. We live in a very unsure world maybe people are afraid to voice their opinion?

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