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hkhan

UNITED KINGDOM
Posted - Tuesday, November 20, 2007  -  7:29 AM Reply with quote
thx T and F for your opinions.
F ; you have completely misinterpreted wat i said. i suggest you went back and re-read.silence has not been suggested. how can we suggest silence who are proclaiming night and day from this site and else
like i told the local pak community reps.who visited us as local pak welfare association in order to request us as office bearers to take their mesge to the authorities to end the emergency status in pak asap and to the president to acquire non-militant status and restoration of the constitution asap-that we are and persistently will be taking this messge across not only to th president himself but also to the high commission here persistently and repeatedly; however we all specially the pakistanis living in the west ought to be v clear on the fact that we are squeezed between two calamities presently-one from the state itself and secondly the superpowers who are already in a rush to invade iran-so there is no point pulling G.brown's or G.bush's sleeves to'plz cpme along an dhelp us' coz that help wont come free;

ofcourse besides speaking and writing and trying to use our own minds in the light of suggestions, we must continually ask Allah to forgive our sins/which means Astaghfirullah! as a nation, 'coz we cannot ignore the mistakes we have been doing in the past and present as a nation.
(ps there are a few writings of renouned scholars about rise and fall of nations/qaumon ka urooj o zawalincluding syed maudoodi, khurram murad and also by rehan yousfi from danish sara as well as javed ghamidi sb himself)though we are hopeful like always that its not the zawal/downfall of pak and things will be better soon insh'Allah( zawal of muslim ummah as a whole is going along for a while though) also check out http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=1&realattid=f_f93ysf9n&attid=0.1&disp=inline&view=att&th=1164d0a108ba46f7
salmant

PAKISTAN
Posted - Tuesday, November 20, 2007  -  9:53 AM Reply with quote
Dear Dr. Khan,

I sincerely feel that being an overseas Pakistani you are doing all that is in your capacity to convey your protest on the current events in Pakistan. However, reading the initial few posts, I thought faust786's response was very much in order. Although your suggestion of being careful in our protest, and hence not giving the oppurtunity to the western powers to have the idea of invading us, is a very rational one. However, one can say that, it would have much more rational for us, muslims, if we had not to ask for a separate country in 1940. There is significant material written on it which suggested that economically we would have been much better off if we lived in a combined India. But did we choose the seemingly rational option then? No we did not. Here is a simple reason for that. People, generally, give more weightage, their values, rights, freedom more than the immediate benefits that are offered by the 'rational' option. Usually a visionary leader makes them take this decision.

We in Pakistan are living in very difficult times, our leaders have chosen to serve the superpowers instead of us. People like Aitzaz Ahsan, a respectable lawer & politician and Imran Khan (a national hero and a great contributor towards the society) are arrested. Peaceful protesters are brutally beaten. The Question is, should we stop breathing if somebody has a problem with it? Because I feel, raising voice now is as natural an act as that of breathing. And not allowing it, is as brutal as telling a person to stop breathing.
hkhan

UNITED KINGDOM
Posted - Wednesday, November 21, 2007  -  5:28 AM Reply with quote
nice to see you S after a while though where hv you been? did this educational site not fascinate you.

i admire your sincerity for the country and we all trying as well- as mentioned above.
you have mentioned pakistan coming into existence. pakistani nation has to ponder a lot- have we been trying for what our ancestors sacrificed their lives and comfort for;

take a basic and simple example. not even a percentage of the resources including time, skills and the amount of money spent in millions on the promotion of just one thing, the sort of entertainment in the country via all our tv and radio channels, is spent on the public education(scientific and religious) and we as public are happy and satisfied with this-we think 'oh yaeh! this is wat we got this country for . Allah's special blessings for us 'Muslims'- to just sit and enjoy indian songs and films and drama stories in all our free time-because after hard work of earning we surely deserve all this.busy surpassing eachother in the material world, car models and bungalows, & fashion designing wherever it takes us to- across the limits of modesty- b... mein ja'in ghareeb jin'n kay paas khana kapra naheen aur tv,pc naheen-bhookay marein aur jahil rahein hamari bala sey. we deserve to have everything good from east and west'

how do we expect any change in such a society which does not endeavour to get rid of the darkness of ignorance leading to sectarinism and poverty.(we musty not forget the bad omen of oppressed reaches the skies faster than the speed of light)

thats why i am stressing about asking forgiveness for our sins and making plans to improve ourselves individually and as a nation. calamaties come as warnings and opportunities for repentance & improvement.
salmant

PAKISTAN
Posted - Wednesday, November 21, 2007  -  11:42 AM Reply with quote
Well, yes I had taken a break, was waiting for some new content to get uploaded on the website... :)

I totally agree, improvement at an individual as well as national level is very much required. My assessment of the situation that you have described is as follows,

Most people have devised these way-outs for themselves in order to reconcile with this harsh reality that they have no control, whatsoever, on their state of affairs. So when pursuit of true happiness seems to be too far-fetched an idea, avenues of immediate pleasure become more important as they seem to be more achievable. Those fortunate ones, who get atleast some education on religion are able to bypass this psychological trap, by thinking of Aakhirat as their ultimate target while keeping their worldly affairs in order. That is a relief ofcourse but...

Their perception that they have no control gives oppurtunity to power hungry elements to take control of the situation, and hence making this phenomena self-fullfilling. So what will break this cycle? People need to be socially and politically aware, and should be able to peacefully yet firmly communicate their opinions. They should constantly be striving for a system that incorporates their views. They should dare to raise their voice against any injustice they are subjected to. If we dont do this, our integrity will always remain in custody of the western (or any other) powers.

Bol! ke lub aazaad hain tere...
hkhan

UNITED KINGDOM
Posted - Friday, November 23, 2007  -  10:05 AM Reply with quote
bilkul theek-lab azad hein teray...(not much nowadays in pak apparently due to media restriction )

am pleased S that you have assessed the situation well. thats what i have been trying to put across that the solution to all the calamaties mentioned does lie in the education & awareness of common person to quite an extent.

it does not cost much to use the resources for such. in pak.
the cable is available to poor people as well on low low rates but sadly most of our media policy makers, producers etc have concentrated much creating programmes which do not give much of teaching; e.g. channels like 'national geographic channel', 'science channel' , 'Discovery' and 'Kids Discovery' could atleast be translated into local languages if producing such from scratch is difficult.(which actually is not-when you look at the skills, efforts and money which is being spent on other entertainment programmes)Some documentaries have been initiated but nothing more than tourism or cooking.


(mind you am not at all saying that the entertainment programmes must be completely restriced. even for that public needs education so that they can then pick for themselves where to spend their time. simply restricting them would cause further retaliation and reaction due to ignorance.)
salmant

PAKISTAN
Posted - Friday, November 23, 2007  -  10:41 AM Reply with quote
Dear Sir,
Our generation - born and bred in the politically disappointing decade of 1990s that ushered in another military rule in Pakistan - had always doubted the possibility of change. Our parents and peers told us that the only way to live in the country was to subject our ideals to the "system" and that the only code of conduct was that of bribery and bullying. They quoted history books and told us how pointless it was to struggle for justice and democracy in Pakistan. Newspapers and TV channels simply added facts that proved their arguments and our own little experiences with "practical life" verified them.

We didn't see people around us as good and bad, or right and wrong, but simply as the smart and the stupid in terms of their dealings with political reality. We weren't able to take any sides because we didn't see any. All we saw was a jumble of interests, each and every one of which could be compromised at a certain price. The theories and principles we learned at school and college seemed utterly devoid of any relevance to our real lives.

But then we saw some people fighting, not for their personal material interests, but for ideas and institutions. Ideas and institutions that form the basis of justice and democracy. We saw them fighting with a passion and selflessness that simply astounded our conventional understanding. We also saw them being oppressed and tortured with such heartlessness that offended the very notion of being human. For the first time in our lives, we saw a conflict where compromise was not an option. For the first times in our lives, we were in doubt about which side to take.

Many judges of superior courts have been put under house arrest. Hundreds of lawyers have been arrested, put under house arrest or forced to go underground. Despite all this, thousands of them are resolved to take the fight to its rightful end, and are bravely facing the inhumane violence being meted out to them on the orders of a power-hungry military dictator. But let us assure you, the lawyers are not alone in this struggle.

We, the students of LUMS and those of many other universities, have joined lawyers in many protests for the independence of judiciary and have witnessed the despicable yoke of dictatorship with our own naked eyes. We have also witnessed the purity of intentions with which lawyers have struggled to throw off this yoke. This purity of intentions and resolve has shown us a much-awaited glimmer of hope. It has shown us the possibility of change.

For giving us this glimmer of hope, this tangible inspiration, this possibility of change, we thank you.

For your courage and resolve, for your steadfastness, for your selflessness, we salute you.

For carrying on the struggle and showing all of Pakistan what a principled stand really means, we congratulate you.

And rest assured, we wouldn't let you down.

Signed,

The Student Body of Lahore University of Management Sciences
hkhan

UNITED KINGDOM
Posted - Friday, November 23, 2007  -  11:29 AM Reply with quote
students should be shown, rather see for themselves, both the sides of the picture. emotional attitudes don't solve the problems.

there are 5 million cases pending in the supreme court which have been brought by common person ; cases like land disputes, rape, murder, illegal posession of land, property or wife, kidnapping & selling of children and so on. however our honoured supreme court for some 'divine guidance' decided to leave all these issues pending while its representatives would march from one city of pak. to the other and then created 100 cases related purely to politics, note-created- no-one brought them to the court of justice; and started utilizing the state resources to solve those political issues first.

what were some people trying to achieve there other than fame and so called hero ship.

we must keep our eyes open to understand all aspects and don't just follow every opinion blindly.
tariq5

PAKISTAN
Posted - Saturday, November 24, 2007  -  5:06 AM Reply with quote
I agree 100% with Dr Khan. Everybody should perform his own duties. Student must learn a lot this is their primary duty. Here everybody is politician and policy adviser, master of foreign affairs.Yes every body here has "Lab azaad". What I have noticed that when evrybody talks about Islam and its principles very few have read the actual history of Muslims in 1400 years,not only the selected history of Khulfa-e-Rashideen but whole history. we are repeating our mistakes!
Naheed Akhtar

UNITED KINGDOM
Posted - Saturday, December 01, 2007  -  11:31 PM Reply with quote
YOU PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT INDIAN FILMS? SEE PRIME TV GEO TV AND PTV. EVERYWHERE MUSLIM PAKISTANI SISTERS AND BROTHERS ARE DANCING NEUDE.THAT DAY I NOTICED ONE CALLED GARI CHUTTI BY SOMEONE CALLED XULFI. A 50 YEAR OLD LOOKING MUSLIM LADY FULL IN MAKEUP WEARING HALF SHIRT AND SHORT PANTS DANCING WITH FIVE YOUNG BOYS. ALL MUSLIM AND PAKISTANIS.THEN PTV IS ALSO SHOWING PEOPLE PRAYING TO GOD. ASKING FORGIVENESS FOR SINS. WHAT IS THIS MUNAFQAT AND HYPOCRYSY. WE ARE EXPECTING GOD'S BLESSINGS WITH ALL THIS PRACTICE. WE MUST BE ASHAMED OF OURSELVES AND JUST SHUT UP AND HOPE THAT GOD MAY SAVE US FROM DESTRUCTION. JUST BECAUSE HE IS KIND. NOT BECAUSE WE ARE MUSLIMS AND WE ARE PAKISTANIS BECAUSE WE DONT LOOK LIKE THAT ANYMORE.
hkhan

UNITED KINGDOM
Posted - Friday, December 28, 2007  -  9:05 AM Reply with quote
things still not good in our dear land. may Allah forgive our mistakes and give us better political and general wisdom to tackle the situation wisely 'n God- conciously. may pakistanis and muslims be able to solve the whole world's problems and bring peace to it, let alone only theirs. amen

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