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hkhan

UNITED KINGDOM
Posted - Tuesday, September 4, 2007  -  10:18 AM Reply with quote
Thank you for everybody's input.

for further details on this matter with references, our special issue of monthly renaissance 'The Economic Directives of Islam' may also be referred to.

http://www.renaissance.com.pk/martitl2y3.html
hkhan

UNITED KINGDOM
Posted - Saturday, September 8, 2007  -  5:55 AM Reply with quote
dentists have ripped me off the money a few times once in khi a very famous dentist(don't want to name him obviously) suggested me rootcanal and crowning. everything would cost Rs.12000 he said. i asked if i could pay in a few months as per my salary-(hoping he might consider professional mate) he bluntly replied' you better collect the money for a few months and then come back' and i looked at his face blankly with my aching tooth.


and really i will not defend doctors just because i am a dr.
my s.i.l. in pak told me that once she went to a pvt hosp and as they reached, my brother happened to leave for the maghrib prayer immediately in the nextdoor masjid. she says that the gynaecologist started shouting upside down that 'look at this;the wife is in labour-- aur inhein namaz kee soojh rahi haey. paysay jama' karai baghair masjid chalay gaey' --although she is their family gynaecologist and this was the 4th or 5th child being borne.

so i think some pvt practice doctors have to limit their 'la'lach' as the same verse of 'alhakumuttakassur ' will apply there.
sibtil

INDIA
Posted - Saturday, September 29, 2007  -  4:00 PM Reply with quote
[2:208] O you who believe! Enter into Islam wholeheartedly; and follow not the footsteps of the Evil One.
This directive from Allah, the Creator, is to be applied by all Muslims. When one embraces Islam, one submits in totality to the teachings of Islam. There can be No “Shortcuts” nor “Picking and Choosing” of which teachings in Islam will be applied and which will not be applied in a Muslim’s life.

In accepting and embracing Islam, all facets of one’s life must be lived in conformity with the Shariah and this is not limited to only “eating and drinking habits.” But it coves each and every aspect of our life, e.g. it also covers how a Muslim should conduct his financial transactions etc.

Income sources too, must also not be against what the religion has defined. In Islam, whatever income that is Hara’m or non-permissible is prohibited from being used to feed the family. It is said, “the flesh that grows out of no- permissible income is destined for hell” It is therefore the responsibility of all Muslims to ensure that the income they earn is from a Hala’l source.

What constitutes Hala’l income?

Prohibitions in Islam include the following:

[2: 60] Eat and drink of that which Allah hath provided, and do not act corruptly, making mischief in the earth.
[5: 100] Say: The bad and the good are not equal, though the abundance of the bad may please you; so be careful of (your duty to) Allah, O men of understanding, that you may be successful.

1. Riba or usury as practiced in conventional banking and insurance;

2. Immoral activities such as stealing and prostitution;

3. Maysir or gambling, whether in casino or any related activities;

4. Food and beverage businesses which are not permissible such as pork and alcohol;

5. Exploitative or manipulations in business dealings, including monopoly; Doctors fee comes mostly under this heading (Exploitation and monopoly etc).

6. Gharar or uncertain transactions such as buying insurance policy for life.

7. Another source of income is by working part-time, which has been the trend in many countries. People work part-time with the expectation to gain extra income for themselves. Those with skills such as sewing, drawing or writing, can use their skills to get additional income. All they have to do is to put in extra effort and to work extra hours in order to do the job. One thing that has to be remembered is if they are working full-time, they should not use their working time to do their part-time job. This is prohibited in Islam as they are paid to do their main job during the official working hours. Doing the part-time job at the expense of the full-time job is considered stealing, which is against Islamic work ethics. Income of most of the doctors comes under this heading again like No.5 as above.
hkhan

UNITED KINGDOM
Posted - Saturday, October 20, 2007  -  8:32 AM Reply with quote
Quote:Income of most of the doctors comes under this heading again like No.5 as above.

aik tow meri samajh mein yeh naheen aata doctron kay peechay kewn parh gaey hein wen the whole world is full of corruption
am not siding them as i said but sounds like picking-thats why our dear doctors dr.waseem,dr.perv and dr.mujahid felt so disheartened apparently and left;which really makes me feel sad and lonely
oosnam

INDIA
Posted - Wednesday, October 24, 2007  -  10:39 AM Reply with quote
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[2:208] O you who believe! Enter into Islam wholeheartedly; and follow not the footsteps of the Evil One.
................................................Doing the part-time job at the expense of the full-time job is considered stealing, which is against Islamic work ethics. Income of most of the doctors comes under this heading again like No.5 as above.

Thanx sibtil & Jazakallah! I agree with you fully.
hkhan

UNITED KINGDOM
Posted - Monday, October 29, 2007  -  11:33 AM Reply with quote
hmm..luks like a lot of front against the poor doctors
in that case i think our people shud also educate themselves in preventive and alternative medicine so that they don't have to keep going to these overcharging docs then and to keep moaning as well.
there is a lot of encouragement for such here in the west; a special project of alternative medicine funded by prince chrles. such options do not make people bound and unreasonable charging can also be checked;
sibtil

INDIA
Posted - Monday, October 29, 2007  -  7:09 PM Reply with quote
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hmm..luks like a lot of front against the poor doctors

Do they charge extra money because they are poor?
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our people shud also educate themselves in preventive and alternative medicine so that they don't have to keep going to these overcharging docs then and to keep moaning as well.

Who should educate us? Or we should educate ourselves?

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