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usmani790
PAKISTAN
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 Posted - Monday, September 18, 2006 - 4:36 AM 
I don't think one has to stop eating if one is caught once in a while.I don't think eating it self prohibited during Maghrib adhan.
The proof is that during Ramazan people are waiting for the Magrib adhan to be recited from mosque so they can strat eating and break their fast.
And Allah knows the best |
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Nida_e_Khair
PAKISTAN
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 Posted - Monday, September 18, 2006 - 4:05 PM
Now that answers my question. Brother Usmani, thanks a lot. And thanks to everyone else on the forum too, especially Sahira for trying to identify my problem.
You know what, Brother Usmani? This relative of mine even stops me from eating at the time of the Maghrib prayer during Ramadan. She tells me to wait for the Adhan to get over. But anyway, I've got the answer now. The example you gave of Ramadan was quite logical.
Assalaamu 'Alaikum. |
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solomon
USA
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Posted - Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 2:15 AM
"Religious Inventions and Superstitions"
such as the jinn being supernatural. |
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solomon
USA
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Posted - Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 2:21 AM
72.6": And that persons from among men used to seek refuge with persons from among jinn, so they increased them in wrongdoing:
Please, stop making the jinn supernatural.
Quick definitions (person)
noun: a human being (Example: "There was too much for one person to do")
noun: a person's body (usually including their clothing) (Example: "A weapon was hidden on his person") |
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Nida_e_Khair
PAKISTAN
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 Posted - Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 3:34 PM
| Assalaamu 'Alaikum. I've no idea what Brother Solomom is trying to say here. Anyway, I have this new doubt in my mind: Is it necessary to fold your prayer mat when you're through with your prayer? I see so many people doing that nowadays. I once heard one of them say keh andar Shaitan beth jaata hai. Is this correct? Does the Sunnah say something concerning it? |
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oosman
USA
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Posted - Thursday, October 19, 2006 - 4:28 PM
I think the 'shaitan will sit on the prayer mat' is ludicrous. I have heard similar thing regarding reading of the Quran. I heard that when you end reading the holy book, then you should not leave it open, other wise the Shaitan will read it!
I was trying not to laugh when I heard this. I do not know why people will say things they have no knowledge of! |
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Nida_e_Khair
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Friday, October 20, 2006 - 8:34 AM
| Brother oosman, I was around 90% sure that folding the prayer mat is just a false tradition, and Jazaakallah for clearing my doubt; but I had no idea that you can leave the Holy Qur'an open when not reciting it. Putting the superstitions aside, I think it is disrespect to the Holy Book, although I admit I don't have any logic behind this thought of mine. But are you sure concerning this one? |
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oosman
USA
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Posted - Friday, October 20, 2006 - 10:06 PM
| If one thinks it is disrespectful, then that is a valid reason. But to say stupid things like 'Shaitan will read it', 'Shaitan will start praying', I think we should dismiss such claims. The Shaitan is already a believer in Allah, we know he used to worship Allah. |
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raushan
UNITED ARAB EMIRATES
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Posted - Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 5:52 AM
| let the shaitan use your prayer mat for a good cause.plz allow him |
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Nida_e_Khair
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Sunday, October 22, 2006 - 12:46 PM
| You know? That's a good suggestion, Brother raushan. I think that's how I'm gonna answer my relatives. |
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raushan
UNITED ARAB EMIRATES
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Posted - Sunday, October 22, 2006 - 1:35 PM
plz be cool n soft n smiley while replying
a shaitan is always quick to pray if mat is available but why not human being...
qayamat is very near I can guess
happy eid to everyone
salam
Edited by: raushan on Sunday, October 22, 2006 1:36 PM |
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Nida_e_Khair
PAKISTAN
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 Posted - Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 12:11 PM
Oh yeah, I almost forgot!
'EID MUBARAK EVERYONE! |
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tilawat
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Friday, October 27, 2006 - 4:09 AM
Sksamsherali
As usual I am impressed by your write-up on the topic. Your quotation of Quran:
"O prophet, tell your wives, your daughters, and the wives of the believers that they shall LENGTHEN their garments. Thus, they will be recognized and avoid being insulted. God is Forgiver, Most Merciful." 33:59
raises a very important questions which you did not perhaps consider important to comment.
It says "Thus, they will be recognized and avoid being insulted".
This quotation raises a plethora of questions which none could clarify so far according to my knowledge and to my satisfaction.
Firstly; how the muslim woman can be recognized? By a special dress they wore or some other sign?
Secondly; the question arises as to who were the insulters. Apparently they were Muslims as they insulted only the non-muslim women.
Thirdly; why Allah is selective being concerned only with protecting the honour of muslim women only?
Fourthly; why Allah says nothing about checking those insulters and appears to give a freehand to them to insult the women who are not 'recognized' as muslims?
And fifthly; Is recognition as muslim depends on the dress only and if so what about the people who have been declared non-muslims, but who dress like muslims? I mean Ahmadies who are more strict about wearing veil than non-ahmadies. Will they also be spared from insulting, etc.?
There is no end to these questions but I would first like to read your comments on the questions raised by me heretofore. |
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oosman
USA
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Posted - Friday, October 27, 2006 - 3:55 PM
tilawat,
Even though your comments refer to someone else, I would like to add something if you don't mind.
You might have read there were brothels in those times and the arabs used their slave girls for prostituition and to make money. When men would visit these places, they would flirt with the woman there. If pious ladies pass by, these men would also harass them not knowing the difference. Also these immoral men might be drunk.
One reason that comes to mind why pious free believing woman were asked to cover with outer garments so it would be easy for the immoral men to know that these are not sex slaves of the brothel but rather free women. So they would leave them alone.
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the question arises as to who were the insulters. Apparently they were Muslims as they insulted only the non-muslim women.
These might have been those immoral men who visited the harems. Could have been the hypocrite Muslims or non-Muslims. How do you know they insulted only non-Muslim women?
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Thirdly; why Allah is selective being concerned only with protecting the honour of muslim women only?
Allah is referring to the free believing women. Obviously the slave has no choice, she was following the will of her master and there is no use in asking the slave to cover with outer garments, her masters would probably think that was not good for their business.
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Fourthly; why Allah says nothing about checking those insulters and appears to give a freehand to them to insult the women who are not 'recognized' as muslims?
Many muslims live in this fake make belief world that the holy prophet was an all powerful ruler, and everyone in town obeyed him. This was simply not true, even after the conquests. You realize how difficult it is for even modern day governments to enforce law and order? How was the prophet supposed to do that over ignorant pagan arabs without any police force? Such an impractical order to the prophet would have been useless and pointless. If a law cannot be enforced, then what is the point of writing laws? |
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tilawat
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Sunday, October 29, 2006 - 11:42 PM
oosman
Thank you for the reply. But excuse me your reply raises more question than it answers. I will come to it later but a few questions which came just to my mind:
1. Are these Quranic injunctions applicable today?
2. Proses in Pakistan and actresses(both believers, perhaps) in Pakistan today do wear burqas to escape teasing and insults but women of well to do honourable families rarely do that. So this is a question of social status and convenience not a moral or religious issue. Did slaves (No religious categorisation?) of those days not want to avoid teasing and insults by took advantage of hijab to escape it? |
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oosman
USA
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Posted - Wednesday, November 1, 2006 - 2:55 AM
tilawat
1-It depends on the interpretation, time, place and situation if the injunction is applicable or not today. What should be applicable would be decency and modesty.
2-Even if a slave wanted to wear hijab, her owners might not allow it. |
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