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Loveall

PAKISTAN
Posted - Saturday, August 27, 2005  -  10:02 PM Reply with quote
To, Mr. Ibrahim,

Are all the posts, still here, in this forum, like other ones, related to the topic?
oosman

USA
Posted - Tuesday, August 30, 2005  -  3:48 PM Reply with quote
There is no need to chide or confront them at all. Just respectfully decline to obey their wishes if you feel you will be miserable if you obey them. Allah does not ask girls to live a life of misery with a man they hate and who is repulsive to them, just because their parents demanded so.
Loveall

PAKISTAN
Posted - Tuesday, August 30, 2005  -  11:32 PM Reply with quote
I agree with you but I mean to say, what must be done IF THE PARENTS DO NOT AGREE AT ALL. What is the message of Islam in this special regard?
oosman

USA
Posted - Sunday, September 4, 2005  -  3:05 PM Reply with quote
You can judge for yourself if you read these stories from Sahih Bukhari.

Volume 7, Book 62, Number 69:

Narrated Khansa bint Khidam Al-Ansariya:

that her father gave her in marriage when she was a matron and she disliked that marriage. So she went to Allah's Apostle and he declared that marriage invalid.


Volume 7, Book 62, Number 67:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet said, "A matron should not be given in marriage except after consulting her; and a virgin should not be given in marriage except after her permission."...
Zulfee

USA
Posted - Monday, September 5, 2005  -  1:42 AM Reply with quote
The prophet who was himself eager and married a girl of 9 or 12 years how he could stop others.
usmani790

PAKISTAN
Posted - Monday, September 5, 2005  -  10:33 AM Reply with quote
Actually this criticism is not only for Prophet (pbuh) but for Allah as well, that He (nauzobillah) selected the wrong person to carrying this Nobel job.

And thou (standest) on an exalted standard of character.(68:4)

This person(Zulfee) even doesn’t have any fear of Allah that how much Allah loves the Prophet (pbuh). The companions of Prophet (pbuh) were stop, not to call him when you go to Prophet place, just wait there till He come out his own. And told them lower your voice while you talking to Prophet (pbuh) otherwise yours good deeds will fruitless you even not known about it.

O you who believe! Do not put (yourselves) forward before Allah and His Messenger (SAW), and fear Allah. Verily! Allah is All-Hearing, all knowing.
O you who believe! Raise not your voices above the voice of the Prophet (SAW), nor speak aloud to him in talk as you speak aloud to one another, lest your deeds may be rendered fruitless while you perceive not.
Verily! Those who lower their voices in the presence of Allahs Messenger (SAW), they are the ones whose hearts Allah has tested for piety. For them is forgiveness and a great reward.
Verily! Those who call you from behind the dwellings, most of them have no sense.
And if they had patience till you could come out to them, it would have been better for them. And Allah is Oft-forgiviving, Most Merciful. (49:1-5)

People never bother to find out the facts.What is in their hearts only Allah knows.

This person Zulfee had gone very far. Only Allah knows that how He will treat him up there. May Allah give us enough sence, so we can recognized our Messenger (pbuh) Ameen.
oosman

USA
Posted - Monday, September 5, 2005  -  4:25 PM Reply with quote
The prophet never forced any woman or girl to marry him.
gohar

PAKISTAN
Posted - Sunday, September 11, 2005  -  7:37 PM Reply with quote
I would say it again its not islamic to deal human as lambs.

The only fear u/we have is that, if we say that everyone is allowed to choose their own spouse, then how its gonna work for our daughters?
But
not to know the answer does not mean to dismiss, ignore or deny the issue.


Its a problem mostly with the middle economic and social status class, tho bhugtho.. jab thak hul na nikalo.

I think if u even allow us/pakistani muslims to marry with our own choice we r not gonna take that risk as our society, state and our own personalities can not bear the rebillion
but
we can ease the situation for women in the sense to give them full idependence and security to deny any decision against her will.

Edited by: gohar on Sunday, September 11, 2005 7:38 PM
raushan

UNITED ARAB EMIRATES
Posted - Wednesday, September 14, 2005  -  9:25 AM Reply with quote
to get married is more social than an individual issue .you can be alone while bachelor but not after marriage and ve to consider social activities in the coming life as well.
then there is a must of taking advice from elders or other good people living in that society.
Its common intelligence that one should take suggestion and follow those who have already experience in the desired field or matter .
Parents are really good counsel there to advice you for better as they have at least 20 years experience of a happy marriage.

Edited by: raushan on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 9:28 AM
gohar

PAKISTAN
Posted - Wednesday, September 14, 2005  -  2:08 PM Reply with quote
one should be free to give his/her opinion. If he/she has one.

Thats the whole point.

No point of repeating myself again n again.
sisterinislam

UNITED KINGDOM
Posted - Saturday, May 27, 2006  -  3:57 PM Reply with quote
assalamu Alaykum
just a quick word, there is a little western saying that "you dont know a persons true personality till you have lived with them, and you never really know them then" I dont think it makes any difference wether a marriage is arranged or not the proof as it were is in the pudding, However it is all important that parents choose ur partner with common sense not cultural preference which so often seems to be the case. If you view your marriage and your partner from an islamic veiwpoint then inshallah it will be strong and flourish.
sahira

UNITED KINGDOM
Posted - Sunday, May 28, 2006  -  12:39 PM Reply with quote
SALAAM

ZULFEE YOUR QUOTE {The prophet who was himself eager and married a girl of 9 or 12 years how he could stop others.} YOU DID NOT EMPHASISZE YOUR POINT HERE THE PROPHET PBUH MARRIED A GIRL OF 9-12 YEARS WELL FIRSTLY THE PROPHET MARRID ONLY WHO ALLAH SWT ORDERED HIM TO ALSO HE MAY HAVE MARRID (NIKKAH) AISHA (RA) AT THAT AGE BUT THEY DID NOT LIVE TOGETHER WHILST SHE WAS AT THAT AGE OR HAVE I GOT IT WRONG?
I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THERE SEEMED TO BE BITTERNESS COMING FROM YOU TOWARDS THE PROPHET PBUH CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY I AMTRULY INTERESTED.
Zulfee

USA
Posted - Tuesday, June 6, 2006  -  1:46 AM Reply with quote
IT IS A FACT.
sahira

UNITED KINGDOM
Posted - Thursday, June 8, 2006  -  8:24 PM Reply with quote
and this means what exactly, if you cant back your theory as to why ur making statements maybe you should keep hem to yourself
Zulfee

USA
Posted - Friday, June 9, 2006  -  10:07 AM Reply with quote
Must come out of the carriership then be on the discussion.
Zulfee

USA
Posted - Friday, June 9, 2006  -  10:07 AM Reply with quote
Must come out of the carriership then be on the discussion.

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