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omer800

PAKISTAN
Topic initiated on Wednesday, December 30, 2009  -  1:59 PM Reply with quote
magic


asalamalekum

jadoo k baray main mujhay kuch information chayea

kya jadoo ek ilm(amaleeyat) hay ?

ya phir yeh ek fun(an art or technique) hay ?
ibrahim

PAKISTAN
Posted - Friday, January 01, 2010  -  12:08 PM Reply with quote
wa alaikum us salam

Jadoo mehaz fun nahin. fun to madaree dikhatay hain. Proper Jadoo jis ko kala ilm bhi kehtay hain wohi cheez hai k jis ko seekhnay sai roka gaya hai.

is k muqablay main aik awr pakeeza ilm hai jis ko amaoomun rohani ya norani ilm bhi kaha jata hai. Is ka sahih use jaiz hai jub k Jadoo ka sahih use bhi ghalat awr najaiz hai.
omer800

PAKISTAN
Posted - Sunday, January 03, 2010  -  7:24 PM Reply with quote
salam

ibrahim bhai
ap k pas kya evidence hay is kalay il m k baray main ??
or dosre taraf mera phir sawal hay k ap roohani ya noorani ilm kis ko kehtay hay .
lets suppose main kehta hun mera uper so called asarat hain ,to hay phir ap ka rohani amal ya noorani amal mujhay kis tarah say faida day ga ??
or yeh rohani amal jo pakeeza amal hay yeh kis tarha kam kerta hay ??

jazakallah for ur positive response.
ibrahim

PAKISTAN
Posted - Saturday, January 09, 2010  -  1:54 PM Reply with quote
W Salam

Quran main aik to Jadu k ilm ka zikar hai & aik Haroot & Maroot frishton ko diyay gai ilm ka.
Pehla ilm napak hai jis ko kala ilm bhi kaha jata hai. & ye haram ahi. jubkeh Dosra Ilm pak hai jis ko Rohani ilm kaha jata hai.

Dono qisam k ilm main alfaz ka asar hota hai. Faraq sirf ye hai k aik main kushrikana alfaz hotay hain & shaiteen-e-jin ki madad li jati ahi. Dosray main Allah k kalam ya pakizah alfaz ka sahara liya jata hai.

Allah ta'ala ka irshad hai k Jadu ho ya haroot-o-maroot ka ilm, Asar Allah k izn sai hota hai & utna hi hota hai jitna k Allah ko manzoor hota hai.

I hope k ub bat kuch wazih hoe ho gi
aboosait

INDIA
Posted - Sunday, January 10, 2010  -  10:08 AM Reply with quote
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..........or yeh rohani amal jo pakeeza amal hay yeh kis tarha kam kerta hay ?

'rohani amal' is just an Urdu name given to the method of treating the ill effects of Shaitani amal.

People who have had experience with such situations have related that the following are among the signs of a person who is possessed by jinn (or Satan):

Strong repulsion when hearing Qur’aan or Aathaan (call for prayers).

Episodes of losing consciousness and/or epileptic attacks, especially when Qur’aan is recited for the possessed person.

Frequent nightmares during sleep.

Tendency to avoid people accompanied by out-of-the-norm behavior.

The jinn who possesses him might speak when Qur’aan is recited for the possessed person.

Madness, as stated in the Qur’aan (interpretation of the meaning): "Those who devour usury will not stand except as stands one whom Satan by his touch hath driven to [epileptic] madness…"2:275

As for a person struck by magic he might experience the following:

Dislike of one’s spouse, as indicated in the Qur’aan by the following verse (interpretation of the meaning): "And from these (angels) people learn that by which they cause separation between a man and his wife..." (Al-Baqarah, 2:102).

Different attitude in the house from that which is outside the house. For example, a person will feel that he is missing his family when is outside the house but when he goes home, love changes quickly to extreme hatred.

Inability to have sexual intercourse with one’s spouse.

Frequent miscarriage for pregnant women.

Sudden change in behavior without obvious reason.

Complete loss of appetite for food.

Thinking or imagining one has done something when in reality one has not.

Sudden obedience and/or love for a particular person.

It should be noted that if a person experiences some of the above symptoms this does not necessarily mean that he is either possessed by a jinn or struck by black magic. It might be due to physiological or psychological reasons.

As for curing this condition the following steps are recommended:

Putting one’s trust in Allah with sincere belief that He is the only cure for everything.

Reading Qur’aan and known supplications expressing seeking refuge, the most important and effective of which is sura 113 and 114, Al-Falaq and Al-Naas, which were used to cure the Prophet himself. Surah 112, Al-Ikhlaas, is recommended along with them, as well as the opening chapter of the Qur’aan, Al-Fatihah. To cure black magic some have successfully used seven lotus-tree leaves. The leaves should be crushed, then mixed them with water enough for taking a bath. The following verses from the Qur’aan are then recited: verse Al-Kursi (2:255), surah Al-Kafiroon (109), surah 112, 113, 114; the verses which mention magic, which are: in surah Al-Baqarah (2:102), Al-A’raaf (3:117-119), Yunus (10:79-82), and Taha (20:65-69). The possessed person drinks some of the water, and the rest is used to give him a bath.

Removing the elements of magic as was done by the Prophet when he was struck by black magic by a Jewish man called Lubaid Ben Al-‘Aasim.

Eating seven Aa’liya Al-Barniy dates (among the dates of Al-Madinah) first thing in the morning; if not possible, any dates will suffice, by the will of Allaah.

Cupping--removing excess blood.

Supplications.

And Allaah is the One who cures and there is no one else who can cure.

For further details please visit
http://www.islamqa.com/en/search2/magic/AllWords/t,q,a



Edited by: aboosait on Sunday, January 10, 2010 10:10 AM
hkhan

UNITED KINGDOM
Posted - Sunday, January 10, 2010  -  1:28 PM Reply with quote
also check out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ovktcib004E
omer800

PAKISTAN
Posted - Sunday, January 10, 2010  -  8:51 PM Reply with quote
'rohani amal' is just an Urdu name given to the method of treating the ill effects of Shaitani amal.
aboosait bhai yeh bat to ek dam perfect hay lekin mera view kuch or hay...lekin main yeh jana chata hun k yeh kya ap daway say keh saktay hain ya mehaz qayas araee hay jo ap nay itni exapmles di jesay k nightmaresk yeh jadoo say hota hay or is ka ilaj qurani ayat hain or agar hain to kis tarha say hain

ham usury walee ayat ko abhee nahe laingay .
or HKHAN apnay ek dafa yeh reply keya tha k yeh physically attack nahee kertay balkay phsycic attack hota hay .
to mera sawal yeh hay k ap k jo views hain unko abboosait nay detail keya hay???

baqe rahee bat usury walee ayat ki to who bad main discuss ki jaege inshallah or sath hi yeh bat k kya waqee rasoolallah per jadu hua tha ya nahee.

i am shocked about this video that mr ghamidi is going against the views of his teacher amin islahi sahab...hope u have read tadabur(surah nas).

allah hafiz
aboosait

INDIA
Posted - Monday, January 11, 2010  -  2:10 PM Reply with quote
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........kya ap daway say keh saktay hain ............. is ka ilaj qurani ayat hain ............
Maine aisa to nahee(n) kaha !

Ilaj ke mutalliq mera eeman yeh hai jo maine oopar ke post me tafseelan wazeh kiya tha. deedaar farmaayiye:
quote:

Putting one’s trust in Allah with sincere belief that He is the only cure for everything.
Qur'aani aayat jinka number aur soora mine bataaya tha woh sab 'duaye(n)' (supplications) hain agar aap inke maane padhe(n) to maaloom padega.
quote:

Reading Qur’aan and known supplications expressing seeking refugee

Umeed karta hoon ki baat samajh gaye aap.

quote:

. ............i am shocked about this video that mr ghamidi is going against the views of his teacher amin islahi sahab...hope u have read tadabur(surah nas).


Mai(n) Video dekh na saka kyunki meare system me kuch problem hai. Kuch dinonse marammat ke liye technician ke paas tha. Ab istemaal ke qaabil huwa to mangwa liya. baqee kuch kaam ek do din me ghar par hi technician aake kar dega insha Allah. Uske baad hee aapko video ke baare me kuch bata sakoonga.

Edited by: aboosait on Monday, January 11, 2010 2:16 PM
omer800

PAKISTAN
Posted - Wednesday, January 13, 2010  -  4:02 PM Reply with quote
salam mujhay kuch confusions hain jo abhe tak clear nahee hoparahee hain.

main janna chata hun k jado/sifli ilm ki haqeeqat kahan tak hay .

saf lafzo main yeh ka kya yeh ilm kisi jantar mantar k zareeya say keya jata hay ?

allah hafiz
hkhan

UNITED KINGDOM
Posted - Wednesday, January 13, 2010  -  8:33 PM Reply with quote
omar bhai kisi ja'duogaron ke website par ja kar poochein tow saaf lafzon mein pata chale ga ...hopefully!
raushan

UNITED ARAB EMIRATES
Posted - Thursday, January 14, 2010  -  9:52 AM Reply with quote
quote:


main janna chata hun k jado/sifli ilm ki haqeeqat kahan tak hay .

allah hafiz


2:102 They followed what the evil ones gave out (falsely) against the power of Solomon: the blasphemers Were, not Solomon, but the evil ones, teaching men Magic, and such things as came down at babylon to the angels Harut and Marut. But neither of these taught anyone (Such things) without saying: "We are only for trial; so do not blaspheme." They learned from them the means to sow discord between man and wife. But they could not thus harm anyone except by Allah's permission. And they learned what harmed them, not what profited them. And they knew that the buyers of (magic) would have no share in the happiness of the Hereafter. And vile was the price for which they did sell their souls, if they but knew!
raushan

UNITED ARAB EMIRATES
Posted - Thursday, January 14, 2010  -  10:02 AM Reply with quote
this is the interview of a magician who disappeared taj mahal once.see how much he is honest-
How did you make the Taj Mahal disappear?
By optical illusion.

But did it actually vanish?
No. I love it very much.

Then how did it happen?
I stopped the light rays from reaching the spectators' eyes.

Was it magic or science?
It was the magic of advanced science by using lots of laser beams, heat, sound and other ways of bending light rays.

Are you then a scientist?
Science and magic are both same.

What then is magic?
Magic today will become science tomorrow.

How much of this is deception?
It is deception for the cause of fun.

You are then treated like a god?
Only innocent people, those who are uneducated, fall at our feet.

Are you cashing in on the superstition of the people?
Nobody should live in a black-and-white world. You must colour it.




http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?210511
raushan

UNITED ARAB EMIRATES
Posted - Thursday, January 14, 2010  -  10:05 AM Reply with quote
you can learn some tricks here.
whether you cheat people by claiming that u have some mysterious powers or entertain people ,is up to you-

http://www.classicmagic.net/
omer800

PAKISTAN
Posted - Friday, January 15, 2010  -  2:53 PM Reply with quote
salam

hkhan ap ko bhai kaho ya behan:) h say kya banta hay ???

kher anyways

mera belief yeh hay k
jin kisi ko physically harm nahee ker saktay .
jin sirf waswasa dal saktay hain .

or jadoo mehaz ek technique hay.
i am working out
and will soon find out the truth inshallah.
hkhan

UNITED KINGDOM
Posted - Friday, January 15, 2010  -  9:53 PM Reply with quote
omer aap bas 'h' he kahein 'coz i am a part of a name

carry on ur research~it's always gud to learn by Learning!
however we ought to keep our minds clear about the fact that magic/jadoo has no place in a believer's life. a believer believes in hard work and trusts in God's will and mercy. magic can be a type of 'shirk' which is a biggest form of impurity and can be a great hirdle in the way to God's pleasure.so one must stay away from these things.
magar aap yeh kiya ja'doo wa'doo ke chakkar mein pare hein bhai have you read all our courses on this site?
omer800

PAKISTAN
Posted - Monday, January 18, 2010  -  8:01 AM Reply with quote
salam
h :) kya hal hain apkay
jadoo...wadoo nahee hay jadoo jadoo hay.
i am working very hard for it and inshallah will let you know my observation.
yeh ek esa art hay jo nasloo ko tabah ker sakta hay or ker raha hay .

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