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atifrafi

PAKISTAN
Topic initiated on Thursday, January 01, 2009  -  7:09 AM Reply with quote
Information / Opinion about the Event of Karbala


Assalam o Alaikum All,

I am looking for some information about the event of Karbala on this website but unable to find any. It will be a good help if someone can provide me any details.

Also, if someone can refer me some article / lecture of Ghamidi Sb on this topic, that will be a great help.

Thanks in advance

Regards
aboosait

INDIA
Posted - Thursday, January 01, 2009  -  1:14 PM Reply with quote
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Assalam o Alaikum All,

I am looking for some information about the event of Karbala on this website but unable to find any. It will be a good help if someone can provide me any details.

Also, if someone can refer me some article / lecture of Ghamidi Sb on this topic, that will be a great help.

Thanks in advance

Regards
Who Killed Al-Hussain?

Retelling the tragedy of Karbalâ has traditionally been an important feature of Shî‘î spirituality. The passion plays of Iran and the Indian subcontinent, the literature, both prose and poetry, composed upon the subject of the martyrdom of Sayyidunâ Hussain (radiyallâhu ‘anhu) and the general atmosphere of mourning that reigns amongst the Shî‘ah during the month of Muharram, all bear eloquent testimony to importance of that event in the Shî‘î calendar. To the Shî‘ah, ‘آshurâ is probably the most important day of the year.

However, it is regrettable that despite the huge amount of attention the subject of Karbalâ enjoys, the event is persistently portrayed as two-sided. It is always depicted as Hussain against Yazîd, Right rising up against Wrong, the Quest for Justice against the Forces of Oppression. Many an opportunist has even gone to the extent of superimposing upon the event the theme of Shî‘ah against Ahl as-Sunnah.

In this partial retelling that concentrates upon what actually happened at Karbalâ, and conveniently draws attention away from the other guilty party in the ‘آshûrâ tragedy, lies another tragedy in itself. For while Hussain's martyrdom has been oft commemorated, and his physical opponents and killers identified, cursed and eliminated, no one has spared a moment's anger for those who deserted him at the crucial hour.

It is these men in the shadows, who squarely deserve to be called the real villains of Karbalâ, upon whom this article seeks to cast light.

To be continued...


Edited by: aboosait on Friday, January 02, 2009 1:33 AM
lofty

UNITED KINGDOM
Posted - Thursday, January 01, 2009  -  7:00 PM Reply with quote
quote:

Assalam o Alaikum All,

I am looking for some information about the event of Karbala on this website but unable to find any. It will be a good help if someone can provide me any details.

Also, if someone can refer me some article / lecture of Ghamidi Sb on this topic, that will be a great help.

Thanks in advance

Regards


Try this website:

http://www.tv-almawrid.org/
aboosait

INDIA
Posted - Friday, January 02, 2009  -  1:39 AM Reply with quote
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Who Killed Al-Hussain? .............

The People of Kufaa invite al-Hussain
It was in Ramadân 60AH that the letters from Kûfah started to arrive at the house of ‘Abbâs ibn ‘Abd al-Muttalib in Makkah where Hussain ibn ‘Alî was staying after his flight from Madînah, letters urging him to lead the Kûfans into revolt against Yazîd ibn Mu‘âwiyah, and assuring him of their loyalty and allegiance. Mu‘âwiyah died two months earlier, and there was much resentment for his son Yazîd for whom the bay‘ah was taken as his successor. The people of Kûfah especially were looking at Hussain for leadership, and soon there was stream of letters coming in from Kûfah. On certain days there would be as many as 600 letters, with messengers who enthusiastically described the support he would receive from the Kûfans.

Kûfah was a unique place, and the Kûfans a peculiar people. In 37AH Sayyidunâ ‘Alî (radiyallâhu ‘anhu) shifted his capital from Madînah to Kûfah, and ever since that city became the home of those who claimed partisanship of the Ahl al-Bayt. After the reconciliation between Hasan and Mu‘âwiyah in 41AH many of those who had been in Sayyidunâ Hasan's army settled in Kûfah. At the time of Mu‘âwiyah's death in 60AH pro-‘Ali sentiments were still to be found in abundance in Kûfah. At the time of Mu‘âwiyah' s death in 60 AH Kûfah was still very strongly pro-‘ Ali. Thus when the opportunity arose the Kûfans, who still regarded themselves as the Shî‘ah (supporters) of the Ahl al-Bayt, turned to Hussain to lead them against Yazîd.

Sayyidunâ Hussain decided to send his cousin Muslim ibn ‘Aqîl to investigate the situation in Kûfah. If he found it feasible he would write to inform Hussain, who would depart with his family from Makkah to join him in Kûfah. Muslim arrived in in Dhul Qa‘dah. The Kûfans, when they learnt of his arrival presented themselves at the residence of Muslim ibn ‘Awsajah al-Asadî where he was staying. Soon there were 12 000 Kûfans who had given their solemn pledge to support and protect Hussain with their lives and all they possessed. When this number rose to 18 000 Muslim felt confident enough to dispatch a messenger to Hussain informing him of the bay‘ah of the Kûfans, and urging him to proceed from Makkah.
To be continued...


Edited by: aboosait on Sunday, January 04, 2009 4:23 PM
aboosait

INDIA
Posted - Sunday, January 04, 2009  -  4:25 PM Reply with quote
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Who Killed Al-Hussain? .............
The People of Kufaa invite al-Hussain
Yazîd replaces the Governor of Kufah with Ubaydullâh ibn Ziyâd

Rumours of what was happening in Kûfah soon reached Yazîd in Damascus. He immediately replaced Nu‘mâ n ibn Bashîr, the governor of Kûfah, with the ruthless ‘Ubaydullâh ibn Ziyâd with orders to find Muslim ibn ‘Aqîl and kill him. Ibn Ziyâd entered Kûfah early in Dhul Hijjah, accompanied by seventeen men on horseback. With the end of his turban drawn over his face he was unrecognizable, and the people of Kûfah, who were expecting Sayyidunâ Hussain, mistook him for Hussain. " Peace upon you, o son of Rasûlullâh," they hailed him. Thus it was that Ibn Ziyâd learnt the truth of the rumors. It was only when one of his mounted men shouted at them, " Stand back! This is the governor ‘Ubaydullâh ibn Ziyâd!" that the Kûfans realized the seriousness of their blunder.

Soon after reaching the governor's residence ‘ Ubaydullâh sent a servant of his own with a bag containing 3000 dirhams to pose as a newcomer from the Syrian town of Hims eager to join the imminent revolution, and thereby discover the whereabouts of Muslim ibn ‘Aqîl. He located Muslim in the house of Hânî ibn ‘Urwah, and took the pledge of allegiance at his hands. The money he handed over to Abû Thumâmah al-‘آmirî who was acting as Muslim' s treasurer. After staying with them for a few days, during which he learnt most of what there was to know about their intrigue, he returned to Ibn Ziyâd and informed him. Hânî ibn ‘Urwah was arrested. At first he denied all knowledge of Muslim' s whereabouts, but when the " newcomer from Hims" was brought before him he confessed. But he still refused to reveal where Muslim ibn ‘Aqîl was.

In the meantime Muslim came to hear about the arrest of Hânî ibn ‘Urwah. Realizing that the hour for a decisive encounter had arrived, he raised his battle cry " Yâ Mansûr" , at which 4000 of the men who had given him their oath of allegiance and loyalty to Hussain gathered around him and proceeded towards the governor' s fort. When he saw Muslim ibn ‘Aqîl with the Kûfans at his gate, ‘Ubaydullâh sent some of the tribal leaders of Kûfah to speak with their people and draw them away from Muslim and warn them of the wrath that would descend upon them when the armies from Damascus arrived.

Soon Muslim's army was called upon by mothers telling their sons, "Come home , there are enough other people here," and fathers ominously warning their sons, "What will happen tomorrow when the Syrian armies start arriving from Damascus? What will you do?"

The resolve of the men who had taken a sacred oath to support and defend the cause of Hussain and the Ahl al-Bayt against Yazîd and his Syrian armies could not hold in the face of such threats and discouragement, even though Hussain was on that very moment making his way to Kûfah with his nearest and dearest relying upon the promises of the Kufans.

To be continued...
atifrafi

PAKISTAN
Posted - Monday, January 05, 2009  -  6:53 AM Reply with quote
Assalam o Alaikum,

Dear Brother Lofty,

Thanks for the reference. I have searched the site but still unable to find any info....

Brother Aboosait,

Thanks a lot for your information. I am reading the information provided by you....

Still waiting for any info about this topic from the Site Admin, Specially of some article / lecture from Ghamidi Sb is available, please refer that.

Thanks

ALLAH Hafiz
raushan

UNITED ARAB EMIRATES
Posted - Monday, January 05, 2009  -  7:50 AM Reply with quote
bro atif,
read the below article from a non-traditional source to this event:
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The tenth of Muharram is a day of mourning for all Muslims, and for Shia Muslims in particular. It marks the martyrdom of Imam Hussein,the grandson of the Prophet, which took place in the 61st year after the Prophet's migration from Mecca to Madina.

The fundamental question that people ask is: Why did Imam Hussein have to court martyrdom? It should be noted, in this context, that Islam is, above all, a project aimed at bringing about fundamental changes in society. The Qur'an emphasises the importance of justice and gives primacy to the ideal of a society that is free of exploitation and oppression, a society that is free from the desire of the few to hoard wealth at the expense of many.


http://dawoodi-bohras.com/news/87/64/Imam-Hussein-A-martyr-in-the-cause-of-justice/d,pdb_detail_article/
aboosait

INDIA
Posted - Wednesday, January 07, 2009  -  2:34 AM Reply with quote
quote:

Assalam o Alaikum,
Brother Aboosait,
Thanks a lot for your information. I am reading the information provided by you....
Wa Alaikum Assalam wa Rahmatullah.
Jazakallahu Khair.
Please red on.....
aboo.
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Who Killed Al-Hussain? .............The People of Kufaa invite al-Hussain
Yazîd replaces the Governor of Kufah with Ubaydullâh ibn Ziyâd........

The Kufans start deserting one by one

One by one the Kufans deserted Muslim ibn ‘Aqîl under the gates of the governor' s fort. At sunset he was left with only 30 men. He led them in Maghrib, and then moved away to the doorway of the Kindah quarter of Kûfah. He went through that door with no more than 10 men, and before he knew it, he was all on his own in the streets of Kûfah. Of all those who had so anxiously and enthusiastically written to Hussain to come and lead them in revolt against Yazîd, and out of the 18 000 men who but days before placed their right hands in his, solemnly pledging allegiance to the cause for which they had invited the grandson of Rasûlullâh , not a single one was there to offer Muslim ibn ‘Aqîl the solace of their company or refuge from the night.

Eventually, parched with thirst, he knocked at a door. The occupant, an old lady, took him in when she learnt that he was Muslim ibn ‘Aqîl. She hid him away in her house, but her son, from whom she extracted a promise not to tell anyone of his presence there, waited only till the morning to take the news to the governor' s residence. The next thing Muslim realized was that the house was surrounded. Thrice he managed with his sword to drive the attackers out of the house, but when they started putting fire to the house he was forced to face them outside. It was only when ‘Abd ar-Rahmân ibn Muhammad ibn al-Ash‘ath, one of those sent to arrest him, promised him the safety of his life, that he lowered his sword. It was a mistake, for they took away his sword and mounted him upon an ass to be taken to Ibn Ziyâd.

Muslim ibn ‘Aqîl fears for Al-Hussain's life

Muslim knew his death was at hand. Tears flowed from his eyes, not at his own fate, but at the thought of Hussain and his family traveling through the harsh, merciless desert towards a fate much more harsher and merciless, to an enemy firmly resolved to bring an end to his venture, and to the most treacherous of partisans whose desertion at the hour of need had brought his life to this tragic end. He begged Ibn al-Ash‘ath to send someone to Hussain with the following message: “Ibn ‘Aqîl has sent me to you. He says to you: ‘Go back with your family. Do not be deceived by people of Kûfah. They are those same supporters of your father from whom he so dearly wished to part, by death or by being killed. The Kûfans have lied to me and have lied to you, and a liar has no sense.’ ”

Later that day —the Day of ‘ Arafah, the 9th of Dhul Hijjah— Muslim ibn ‘Aqîl was taken up to the highest ramparts of the fort. As he was being led up, he recited the tahlîl, tasbîh, takbîr and istighfâr. His last words reflect his intense disappointment with the people of Kûfah, "O Allâh, You be the Judge between us and our people. They deceived us and deserted us." From high upon the ramparts his head fell down in the dust, in full view of those whose invitations and oaths of allegiance had given him so much to hope for, but whose cowardice and treachery had left him with nothing but despair. And Hussain was on his way…

‘Ubaydullâh ibn Ziyâd had entered Kûfah with only seventeen men. For each man that came with him there was over a thousand who had taken the oath of allegiance at the hands of Muslim ibn ‘Aqîl. Yet not a single sword was raised in his defense. Not a single voice had the courage to protest his execution. And these were the same men who had been telling Hussain, “Come, we are with you.”
To be continued...


Edited by: aboosait on Wednesday, January 07, 2009 2:36 AM
aboosait

INDIA
Posted - Wednesday, January 07, 2009  -  3:00 AM Reply with quote
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----------The tenth of Muharram is a day of mourning for all Muslims--------

Mourning is observed in Islam by increased devotion, receiving visitors and condolences strictly in accordance with the following directions and they have been instructed not to exceed the prescribed limits.

Loved ones and relatives are to observe a 3-day mourning period. Widows observe an extended mourning period (Iddah), 4 months and 10 days long, in accordance with the Qur'an 2:234. During this time, she is not to remarry, move from her home, or wear decorative clothing or jewelry. Islamic scholars consider this directive a balance between mourning a husband's death and protection of the widow from censure that she became interested in re-marrying too soon after her husband’s death. This is also to ascertain whether or not a lady is pregnant.


The tenth day of Muharram is called Yaumu-l 'Ashurah, meaning, ‘the tenth day’.

‘Ashura is a day of great historical significance. On this day: Allah (Subhanahu wa Ta'ala) accepted the repentance of Adam('Alaihis-Salaam) after his exile from Paradise; Allah (Subhanahu wa Ta'ala) saved Nuh ('Alaihis-Salaam) and his companions in the ark; Allah extinguished the fire in which Ibrahim ('Alaihis-Salaam) was thrown by Nimrod; And Allah (Subhanahu wa Ta'ala) spoke directly to Musa ('Alaihis-Salaam) and gave him the Commandments. On this same 10th of Muharram, Ayyub ('Alaihis-Salaam) was restored to health (from leprosy); ('Alaihis-Salaam) was reunited with his father Ya’qub ('Alaihis-Salaam); Yunus ('Alaihis-Salaam) was taken out from the belly of the fish; and the sea was divided as the nation of israel was delivered from captivity and Pharoah’s army was destroyed.

‘Ashura is also the day when the kingdom of Sulaiman ('Alaihis-Salaam) was restored; Isa ('Alaihis-Salaam) was raised to Jannah; and it is just a coincidence that Sayyidina al- Imam Husayn (Radiyallahu 'anh) (the Holy Nabi’s, Sall Allahu alaihi wa Aalihi wa Sallam), grandson achieved the honor of Martyrdom on the 10th of ssMuharram..

Ibn Abbas (Radiyallahu 'anh) reports that the Prophet (Sall Allahu alaihi wa Aalihi wa Sallam) arrived in Madinah and found the Jews observing fast on the day of ‘Ashura… They said: "It is the day of great (significance) when Allah delivered Musa ('Alaihis-Salaam) and his people and drowned Pharoah and his people, and Musa ('Alaihis-Salaam) observed fast out of gratitude. And we also observe it." The Holy Messenger of Allah (Sall Allahu alaihi wa Aalihi wa Sallam) responded: "We have more right, and we have closer connection with Musa ('Alaihis-Salaam) than you have"; so Allah’s Messenger (Sall Allahu alaihi wa Aalihi wa Sallam) observed fast (on the day of ‘Ashura) and gave us orders to observe it. [Sahih Bukhari and Muslim]


Edited by: aboosait on Wednesday, January 07, 2009 3:15 AM
umarbaig

INDIA
Posted - Wednesday, January 07, 2009  -  8:13 AM Reply with quote
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…………….. Hussain. " Peace upon you, o son of Rasûlullâh,"………………

The Noble Quran, 3: 61

But whoever disputes with you in this matter after what has come to you of knowledge, then say: Come let us call our sons and your sons and our women and your women and our near people and your near people, then let us be earnest in prayer, and pray for the curse of Allah on the liars.

Sahih Muslim, Volume 15 page 176

When the above verse came down (at the time of debate between the Messenger and the Christians from Najran), the Messenger of God called upon Ali, Fatima, Hasan and Hussein and said: God, these are the members of my family.

Sayyidunâ Hussain (radiyallâhu ‘anhu) said:

People are the slaves of this world, and religion is just in their tongue. They keep it as long as it meets their comfortable life. But when the test comes, religion holders become very few.
umarbaig

INDIA
Posted - Wednesday, January 07, 2009  -  8:45 AM Reply with quote
Click here to Read more about Sayyidunâ Hussain (radiyallâhu ‘anhu) and the incidence of Karbala
aboosait

INDIA
Posted - Wednesday, January 07, 2009  -  12:56 PM Reply with quote
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........Click here to Read more about Sayyidunâ Hussain (radiyallâhu ‘anhu) and the incidence of Karbala........
Umarbaig,
That link is to an article by Shaikh Wiki which says among other things:
quote:

.....As a reward for Hussein's suffering, he will be allowed to intercede for the faithful on the day of judgment......
    There is no intercession specifically for the family of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), rather that is something that may be granted to all those among the righteous, the martyrs and the scholars with whose intercession Allaah is pleased, whether they are among Ahl al-Bayt or are from among the ordinary people.
    A man’s righteous deeds may also intercede for him. But the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) will have the greatest share of intercession.
Thus we may know the response to the extremists among the Raafidis who claim that intercession is only for the family of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). Rather it is stated in their books that Ahl al-Bayt are the ones who will admit people to Paradise and to Hell! This is just part of a lengthy list of the different types of exaggeration that they have, the source of which is their ignorance of the religion of Allaah, may He be exalted, and their keeping away from the texts of Revelation in the Qur’aan and Sunnah.

Intercession on the Day of Resurrection is of two types:

1 – Intercession which will be accepted. This is intercession which is proven in the texts of sharee’ah. More details will be given below.

2 – Intercession which will be rejected. This is intercession which according to the texts of the Qur’aan and Sunnah is invalid and ineffective, as we shall see below.

Accepted intercession is of various types:
    The greatest intercession, which is al-maqaam al-mahmood, which the earlier and later generations will ask the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) to intercede for them with their Lord so that He might relieve them of the horrors of the Day of Judgement. This has been explained above.
    Intercession for those among the monotheists who committed major sins and entered Hell, that they may be brought forth from it. It was narrated that Anas said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “My intercession will be for those among my ummah who committed major sins.” (Saheeh Sunan al-Tirmidhi, 1983).
    The intercession of the Messenger for people whose good deeds and bad deeds are equal, that they may enter Paradise, and for others who had been ordered to Hell, that they may not enter it.
    Intercession that some people may enter Paradise without being brought to account.
    Intercession of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) for his paternal uncle Abu Taalib, so that the torment of the Fire be reduced for him. This applies only in the case of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and his paternal uncle Abu Taalib.
    The intercession of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) that the believers might be granted permission to enter Paradise.
With regard to the kind of intercession that will be rejected, this is intercession that does not meet the conditions required of permission from Allaah or His being pleased (with the intercessor or the one for whom intercession is made), such as the intercession which the people of shirk believe that their gods will achieve. They only worship them because they believe that they will intercede for them with Allaah, and that they are mediators or intermediaries between them and Allaah


Edited by: aboosait on Wednesday, January 07, 2009 1:11 PM
umarbaig

INDIA
Posted - Wednesday, January 07, 2009  -  5:12 PM Reply with quote
aboosait
quote:

That link is to an article by Shaikh Wiki which says among other things:
quote:

.....As a reward for Hussein's suffering, he will be allowed to intercede for the faithful on the day of judgment......



I have gone through the article of the link. I could not find this sentence anywhere.

Allah knows the best!
aboosait

INDIA
Posted - Thursday, January 08, 2009  -  3:54 AM Reply with quote
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aboosait,.........I have gone through the article of the link. I could not find this sentence anywhere.........!
quote:

......He is believed to be the third imam. He set out on his path in order to save Islam and the Ummah from annihilation at the hands of Yazid. According to Shi'a belief he was a willing sacrifice to religious necessity, and Shi'as view Hussein as an exemplar of courage and resistance against tyranny. Ashura, a day of mourning and self-reflection, is held in honor of his suffering. As a reward for Hussein's suffering, he will be allowed to intercede for the faithful on the day of judgment.[32] The saying, "Every day is Ashura, every land is Karbala," is a reminder to live one's life as Hussein did on Ashura, with total sacrifice to Allah and for others. This saying also signifies "We must always remember, because there is suffering everywhere"......... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Husayn_ibn_Ali

And don’t say the following is also not in Shaikh Wiki's article.
quote:

The anniversary of his martyrdom is called ‘Āshūrā ("tenth" day of Muharram) and is a day of mourning and religious observance for all Muslims.
Please read my comments on that in my Post dsted - Wednesday, January 07, 2009 - 3:00 AM


Edited by: aboosait on Thursday, January 08, 2009 4:17 AM
umarbaig

INDIA
Posted - Thursday, January 08, 2009  -  5:37 AM Reply with quote
Sibt Ibn Jauzi writes in his Tadhkira, page 148, that when the descendants of the Prophet were brought as captives to Syria, Yazid was sitting in the second story of his palace. He recited the two following couplets:


"When the camel litters carrying prisoners appeared, a crow cawed (a bad omen in Arabia). I said: O crow, whether you caw or not, I have taken vengeance on the Prophet."


"Vengeance" refers to the fact that his elders and near relatives were killed in the battles of Badr, Uhud, and Hunain. He avenged their deaths by killing the sons of the Prophet.

I think his mission is yet not completed that’s why his successors are continuing.
aboosait

INDIA
Posted - Thursday, January 08, 2009  -  7:26 AM Reply with quote
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.......... his elders and near relatives were killed in the battles of Badr, Uhud, and Hunain............
    Killed by whom?
    Neither by the Prophet nor by his followers.
    Then Umarbaig, on what grounds do you justify your allegations on Yazid.


Edited by: aboosait on Thursday, January 08, 2009 7:37 AM

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