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Topic initiated on Wednesday, August 6, 2008  -  7:49 AM Reply with quote
A Picture Speaks a Thousand Words

At the End of Her Education

Now, After 4 years of prison in Afghanistan

Are we living in a Jungle??? I am absolutely shocked to see these pictures and Don't know what should we muslims do about these brutal acts..... Sometimes I do think that the so called Jihadi activities by muslims are justified in these circumstances.

I know this is not the way to do Jihad but what Americans are doing, what can we do now???

Edited by: atifrafi on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 8:02 AM

Edited by: atifrafi on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 10:55 AM

Edited by: hkhan on Thursday, August 07, 2008 6:05 AM

Posted - Wednesday, August 6, 2008  -  2:13 PM Reply with quote
Cool down brother!

I really wonder at your innocence.Why do you expect mercy and compassion from your declared enemies.As a rule,Enemies do behave like this only.They do even worse when they are more powerful than you.Go through their recent history to find how brutal were they to their own co religionists.Werent they all christians fought world wars?
There are people among us who are seeking short term solutions to defeat these enemies with full devotion.This will certainly not going to work as itz opposed to the law of Creator.

May Allah give you patience to watch more ,keep your energy safe as it can be used in more fruitful purposes.

Posted - Thursday, August 7, 2008  -  6:22 AM Reply with quote
thx for your post A;
(we hv deleted the 2nd picture. i dont think the lady would have allowed to display her pic. in such a state) our prayers remain with her and all the oppressed in the world. inna lillah...(if this is the true state of affairs.hvn't been able to catch the full story)

muslims are already living in a state of paranoaid in the west according to a study about the psychological conditions prevailing in the mislim community. such fears keep them behind in performance and achievement. may God protect us all everywhere & help us continue serving humanity wherever we live.

Posted - Friday, August 8, 2008  -  5:20 AM Reply with quote
I am absolutely shocked to see these pictures and Don't know what should we muslims do about these brutal acts.....

Here's the story on BBC, and her pic now is pretty much public.


I had been following her case:

WASHINGTON, March 29: The FBI has issued a worldwide search notice for a woman of Pakistani origin for her alleged connections with the Al Qaeda network.

ISLAMABAD, March 31: ...Agents of the United States' Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) were allowed to interrogate Aafia Siddiqui who was shadowed after she arrived in Karachi on an internal flight,

But instead of arranging for the release of the illegally detained doctor, the authorities have apparently opted to punish the remaining members (Dr Aafia's mother and elder sister Dr Fawzia Siddiqui with her two children) for protesting against the injustice.

Aafiya's mother, a resident of Karachi's Gulshan Iqbal area, also confirmed the arrest reports of her daughter, but added that she was threatened and asked to keep mum over the matter.

ISLAMABAD, May 28: An interior ministry spokesman on Friday confirmed that Dr Aafia Siddiqui, allegedly involved in terrorist activities, had been arrested in 2003 from Karachi and handed over to the US authorities. .......

On this occasion, the interior minister was quoted by her father as saying: "According to my information, Dr Aafia has already been released and Dr Fawzia should wait for her sister's call at home."


If anything it is the Governmnet of Pakistan that is responsible for her predicament.

Anyway, what can we do:




She is just one of the many abducted by the Governmnet of Pakistan and handed over.

The thing to do is to strengthen the role of the Supreme Court and keep checks and balances on wayward politicians and dictators.

Before we turn to others, we need to fix our own home.

Posted - Friday, August 8, 2008  -  6:11 AM Reply with quote
Dear Brother Raushan....

I am not expecting any mercy from our declared enemies but don't you think that the actual culprit in this case is our OWN govt.... as suggested by brother Junaid as well. We have to find some solution about our own govt.

I think its will be much better to fight with the enemies, even if you loose, rather than SELLING your own people...

I am not in favour of short term solutions but just think of the mental situation of the relatives of this poor doctor.... Just think, If this happens with some of your family member, what will you do?

We have to think and do something on Emergency basis, because next can be you or me.....

Posted - Friday, August 8, 2008  -  8:49 AM Reply with quote
dear Atifbhai,
I do consent and very much with you in terms of standing in support of Afia.We all are memebers of a big family.

I just responded to the way of reaction, we do in these cases.See... you blamed USA and brother junaid blames Govt.May I ask you who votes for the govt?

Posted - Friday, August 8, 2008  -  9:02 AM Reply with quote
1. What are the proofs of the allegations on her?

on contrary,

2. What are the proofs of her innocence?

Posted - Friday, August 8, 2008  -  5:01 PM Reply with quote

May I ask you who votes for the govt?

Military Dictatorship.

Edited by: junaidj on Friday, August 08, 2008 5:02 PM

Posted - Friday, August 8, 2008  -  5:10 PM Reply with quote
Check out these two movies.

Extraordinary Rendition (2007)


A man is abducted from the streets of London and transported via secret flights to an unknown country. Held in solitary confinement and cut off from the outside world, he is plunged into a lawless nightmare of detention without trial, interrogation and torture. Returned without explanation to the UK many months later, he is left to pick up the pieces of a shattered life in a world he no longer recognises.

[The movie at the end indicates 1100 cases of abductions by the CIA, and 59 cases against CIA officials as such.]


Taxi to the Dark Side (2007)


An in-depth look at the torture practices of the United States in Afghanistan, Iraq and Guantanamo Bay, focusing on an innocent taxi driver in Afghanistan who was tortured and killed in 2002.

Posted - Friday, August 8, 2008  -  7:31 PM Reply with quote
Junaid why are you so determined to continue portraying the West in such a scary way? Have you prepared to leave Canada soon...

Posted - Friday, August 8, 2008  -  8:18 PM Reply with quote

Junaid why are you so determined to continue portraying the West in such a scary way? Have you prepared to leave Canada soon...

1) The two movies were made in the 'West', so we have allies in the 'West' in the form of human rights groups, civil liberty groups, leftists and the like.

2)I think, the word 'West' is a generalization, just like the word 'Islam' used by critics.

OBL and the Taliban do not represent Islam. Likewise, the 'CIA' does not represent the West.

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