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hkhan

UNITED KINGDOM
Topic initiated on Tuesday, December 12, 2006  -  1:03 PM Reply with quote
pc is a better companion than a wife


what do you think of the following, why does this happen and what can women do about it


" Well atleast a PC does not nag you, does not ask you where have you been all day after you return from long working hours, does not give you a shopping list for not only self but for a number of her relatives to be visited, does not moan about the tireless chores at home she had been tied up with all day...atleast I can have from the PC what I want at the time. Oh I love my PC. Long live my PC!"
Nauman

PAKISTAN
Posted - Wednesday, December 13, 2006  -  1:53 PM Reply with quote
As-Salaamu Alaikum.

The only solution to this problem, if both of them are not willing to change themselves, is: Wife should get a job too.
hkhan

UNITED KINGDOM
Posted - Thursday, December 14, 2006  -  11:09 PM Reply with quote
hmmm... nauman i cn see the solution you are presenting in this---to keep the wife busy as well.
but then who wud do the house jobs
Nauman

PAKISTAN
Posted - Friday, December 15, 2006  -  10:45 AM Reply with quote
That is why wrote ‘If both are not willing to change’

Man should allow her wife to go outside for grocery, to her relatives etc. Her sitting in house all day makes her do that.
sahira

UNITED KINGDOM
Posted - Friday, December 15, 2006  -  1:13 PM Reply with quote
i could say the same about men PC are better company
waseem

UNITED KINGDOM
Posted - Friday, December 15, 2006  -  5:23 PM Reply with quote
brother Nauman, you have written, " the husband should allow his wife to go to relatives and get grocery" I think women are perfectly capable of knowing what they would like to do. Generally with due respect, both men and women sound extremely pessimistic about their current/future comapnions. Cheer up! The future is bright-the future is orange.

Islam is the religion of moderation and what I have learnt in life is , it is about balance. We play different roles, an occupational role, a son/daughter, brother/sister, husband/wife, father/mother.In my very humble opinion, it is about maintaing a balance in all our relationships.

PC is a good companion, it is a means of keeping in touch with family and friends. It is a source of knowledge and learning. It also fulfils intellectual needs, like web site and discussion forums, but we must learn to fulfill all our obligations, i.e parents, family, spouse, children.

Excess of everything is bad.moderation and defining bounderies and staying within them-that is the name of teh game.

Allah knows best
Nauman

PAKISTAN
Posted - Friday, December 15, 2006  -  7:23 PM Reply with quote
To Waseem:

Quote: In my very humble opinion, it is about maintaining a balance in all our relationships.

Quote: we must learn to fulfill all our obligations, i.e parents, family, spouse, children.

Agree. This is what I am trying to say.
hkhan

UNITED KINGDOM
Posted - Monday, December 18, 2006  -  11:55 PM Reply with quote
and like sahira says a woman can rightly have the same opinion re: her spouse if things do not go in the right direction
faizulwahab

PAKISTAN
Posted - Saturday, November 10, 2007  -  10:06 PM Reply with quote
"pc is a better companion than a wife"


and, let me add, my laptop don’t have any problem with my PDA in my pocket, rather its always share hands "networked" to help provide data when and where required. THATS MUCH BETTER. Problem only lies with not having the cute little by products from PC.
tilawat

PAKISTAN
Posted - Sunday, November 11, 2007  -  12:05 AM Reply with quote
PC is certainly the best companion especially for the old people and the young boys who do not need sex-service.

There is a Hadees, I quote below:

"Auratein sheitaan ka jaal hein. Agar yih shehwat nah hoti to auraton ko mardon par qabu na hota." (Qoul-e-Nabi, Ehyaaulaloom, vol.III, page 118)

At least I found the PC my best company which has found for me cyber-friends all over the world.
hkhan

UNITED KINGDOM
Posted - Sunday, November 11, 2007  -  9:51 AM Reply with quote
we ought to introduce lots of positive websites in order to counteract the negative use of interact for war, porne and drugs.so that pc can prove to be a good and beneficial companion for education and learning besides healthy entertainment.

btw T yeh 'shaytan ka jal' buna aap ney thaa??
tilawat

PAKISTAN
Posted - Monday, November 12, 2007  -  12:02 AM Reply with quote
You say:

"btw T yeh 'shaytan ka jal' buna aap ney thaa?? "

Mein poochhta hoon yih sawaal he ya ilzam?

Aur sunye ek irshaad-e-Rabbani:

"Saanp aur sher ke peechhe jaao magar aurat ke piichhe nah jaao" (Hazeat Suleman ko Allah ki taakeed, E.A. by Imam Ghazali, vol III, page 120)

Haqiqat yih he kih saanp ka dassah mar to sakta he aurat ka dassah mar bhi nahein sakta.
oosnam

INDIA
Posted - Monday, November 12, 2007  -  10:18 AM Reply with quote
Plz write in a way that everyone can easily read it.
hkhan

UNITED KINGDOM
Posted - Tuesday, November 13, 2007  -  10:49 PM Reply with quote
O; actually T is moaning about women's position

T we have wel-replied to all such made up stories about women in our special issue of the monthly Renaissance journal'misunderstandings about women'
so stop moaning and read that plz


http://www.renaissance.com.pk/Febtitl2y5.html
tilawat

PAKISTAN
Posted - Wednesday, November 14, 2007  -  12:27 AM Reply with quote
I am sorry to say that the site you referred me to is, in my view, a blatant misinterpretation of the Quran Hakeem and Hadees with intention only to ingratiate oneself in the eyes of the West who accuse Muslims of being anti-feminists.

For example take the following verse of the Qurane Hakeem which the foundation for the institution of family wherein the husband is held to be 'Qawwam', a sovereign, answerable only to Allah:

"And as for those from whom you fear rebellion, admonish them [first] and [next] refuse to share their beds and [even then if they do not listen] punish them. Then if they obey you, take no further action against them. Indeed, Allah is Exalted and Mighty. (4:34)"

Firstly, here your are ordained to act on your perception (fear) of rebellion not actual rebellion. Mind it is a preventive action against a wife who is suspected to be rebellious by her misbehaviour with her husband and it is a positive order of Allah to beat her.

Second, in a monogamous family, 'the refusal to share bed', will be a punishment more for the husband than the wife, especially when the husband has no 'stepni' in the shape of another obedient wife or a slave.

Thirdly: a husband may not always be in a position physically or otherwise to beat a wife as a 'nashooz' woman can muster more support from her 'sympathisers', etc. What should the husband do then to save his family and honour. Will he not be justified then to seek the help of the society which may lead to 'Karo kari', the only remedy available in such cases, perhaps?
hkhan

UNITED KINGDOM
Posted - Saturday, November 17, 2007  -  10:41 PM Reply with quote
thx T; however wen you'll read the suggested link in detail, you'll be surprised how things will be much more clearer.

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