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JunaidHasan

GERMANY
Topic initiated on Saturday, June 17, 2006  -  1:15 AM Reply with quote
Wrong things are being ascribed to Mr. Ghamidi!


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Edited by: junaidhasan on Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:01 PM
ibrahim

PAKISTAN
Posted - Saturday, June 17, 2006  -  11:57 AM Reply with quote
THANK YOU VERY MUCH br for this. Jazak a Allah u Khairun
zaibhere

PAKISTAN
Posted - Saturday, June 17, 2006  -  10:04 PM Reply with quote
Shukran ya HAjji :)
Junaidj

CANADA
Posted - Sunday, June 18, 2006  -  12:33 AM Reply with quote
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For examples, there’s a rumor around, these days, that Mr. Ghamidi preaches that homosexuality is permissible in Islam.


Ghamidi's view is clear and open:

http://www.naseeb.com/naseebvibes/interview-detail.php?aid=3952

VIBES: You have said on a national TV show that it is not reasonable to punish homosexuals. Some argue that it is against the tenets of Islam?

Allama Javed Ghamidi: I am afraid that is not correct. I have not said it is not reasonable to punish homosexuals. What I said is that the Islamic Shari’ah has not prescribed a punishment for homosexuality. If the society decides a punishment, I have no objection to that. In addition, I should say that homosexuality is a horrible sin. The Holy Qur’an is very clear about the fact that the only way for a person to satisfy his sexual urge is to marry a member of the opposite sex.

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What exactly are these rumours, perhaps if you can mention in detail we can deliberate further.
raushan

UNITED ARAB EMIRATES
Posted - Sunday, June 18, 2006  -  2:24 PM Reply with quote
Every DAYEE of true deen of Allah must be prepared for these sort of things.Allegations and blames from the society are very natural in the response to the work one is doing.
These things are not new ,Opponents will say you a magician,a one who is against the teachings of their forefathers.They will try to put you in trouble both mentally and physically(even kill ).
But a Dayee always avoid to take revenge and continue with the preaching of what he believe is true.
He knows that as per quran his position in the society is a naseh(well wisher) and ameen.

Edited by: raushan on Sunday, June 18, 2006 2:28 PM
Rakhtal

PAKISTAN
Posted - Wednesday, June 21, 2006  -  12:40 PM Reply with quote
QUOTE: - These things are not new ,Opponents will say you a magician,a one who is against the teachings of their forefathers.They will try to put you in trouble both mentally and physically(even kill
A HADITH: Anyone who is not the companion of the Prophet (Saw) cannot be equal to even the dust of the nose of the horse of any companion of the Prophet (Saw).

If such is such then
No body must dare to compare their Gurros with the Prophet (Saw).
student1

PAKISTAN
Posted - Wednesday, June 21, 2006  -  1:32 PM Reply with quote

Asalam Aalaikum,

Brother Thank you for protecting the respect of Brother Ghamidi Sahab.
What can you say about these religious secterian groups who donot even know the basics of Islam. You would be surprized to know that their are still some muslims who claim that "Islam can only be injected in the hearts of people through sword".

Their are still some conservative minded extremist muslims with pre-concieved misconceptions who are the most intolerant people in this entire world. And you will realise that they are going against Islam from every angle and are in a great misconception that they are the true followers of Islam.

Javed Ahmed Ghamidi is no doubt a great intellect and genius personality of our time although I donot agree with his team at understanding-islam.org completely but still I respect him and his team because they are one of the few people in Muslim Community who are trying to explain Islam from unbiased mind and have explained their views clearly in the light of Qur'an and Sunnah of the Prophet(pbuh).

Remember brother, you cannot help these secterian groups. Just simply ask them how much you guys are following Islam.
They call themselves beralvis, deobandis ,wahabis and salafis, and they donot even know that in Qur'an ,Allah(swt) clearly discourages muslims from dividing into sects.
On what basis do they justify their schools of thought?
Unfortunately the muslim ummah has been suffering miserably from illiterate and biased minded groups .
Tell them that Javed Ahmed Ghamidi Sahab is not an enemy of Islam, if this was the case, then he wouldnot have been invited on Geo TV like other great Scholars are.

Every Muslim Scholar has his own style and view of on Islam.

If they are intentionally passing these baseless remarks against him, then they will answer infront of Allah(swt) on the day of judgment.
student1

PAKISTAN
Posted - Wednesday, June 21, 2006  -  1:36 PM Reply with quote

Remember brother

Asalam Aalaikum,

When a person is not able to find fault or any defect in another person, then he starts passing these kinds of false news inorder to lay down other persons position and what else can they do.

May Allah(swt) guide these kinds of people

Regards,
khaledgr8

PAKISTAN
Posted - Wednesday, June 21, 2006  -  2:30 PM Reply with quote
Dear All ,

There are various rumors are spreading against Ghamidi Sahib . I do not like to take name but there are some top religious parties whose anger is on top after remarkable explanation of Hudood Ordinance issues and some owing to old baisness with him.They people dont even know what the history of MR .Ghamidi .He has developed his religious wisdom under the mentorship of our proudiest scholors Moulana Amin Islahi (ra) and Moulana Moudoodi (ra) . I am very much surprised that on stateless Jehad even Moulana Moudoodi was clear that it is against of Quranic teaching but despite that on these grounds, people are spreading such evils.

But it is true a "DAYEE" must have to face such hurdle in order to raise the name and message of God.

May Allah Guide us to right path.

Regards

Khaled
Zulfee

USA
Posted - Thursday, June 22, 2006  -  7:48 PM Reply with quote
Student 1 and Khalidgr and others

It is true that every one, like you, is overconfident and considers oneself knowledgeable and pious inspite of all the discrepancies and the evils.

If you want to please Allah, it is better to find your own faults than those of others.
khaledgr8

PAKISTAN
Posted - Friday, June 23, 2006  -  9:10 AM Reply with quote
Brother zulfi ,
Instead of calling authorative decision about me and others, you should rather point out where we are wrong . An healthy dicussion is always that in which participant discuss on the basis of knowedge and other sources .

I think you must think regarding this.

Reg

Khaled
Zulfee

USA
Posted - Saturday, June 24, 2006  -  1:27 AM Reply with quote
Brother Khalidgr8,

Have you asked to correct urself or some else?
Zulfee

USA
Posted - Friday, June 30, 2006  -  4:52 PM Reply with quote
Salam, Khalidgr8,

See below if you wanted to know your faults/mistakes.

You people do open shirk with Allah and the people doing shirk are disbelievers or Kafirs. Nowhere in Noble Quran is mentioned, obey Muhammad but it is only to obey the Rasool (messenger). Despite the clear commandment of God, the corrupt people obey Muhammad Not the Rasool (messenger) and it a serious dishonesty with God and Noble Quran. God forgives everyone but not ‘Mushrekeen’

Hadith attributed to Muhammad are the fabricated material and are never the source of Islam. The corrupt people basically created these Hadith many years after the death of the prophet Muhammad. One of the aims of those corrupt people was to adulterate the religion and to find the things and the interpretations of their own choice.

The corrupt people of today also have the gateway of Hadith to corrupt the religion and find the things of their own choice. They give Hadith much more importance than the Noble Quran. So you people are one of the corrupt people who believe in Hadith and do shirk with Allah. Everyone knows that the people doing shirk are never Muslims but disbelievers (Kafirs).

Your team consider themselves extra knowledgeable while most of them are the dull-minded wicked people (men and women). They are extra overconfident and do much backbiting than others e.g. see the posts of student 1 from Pakistan, as they are full of backbiting while he/she him/herself is among those who are the dull minded people.

Most of your team’s work revolves around a woman by hook or crook. What is their interest in this special religious aspect- woman, not the whole religion equally? You might have seen that the moderators of this website chase and follow the posts of women more than those of men. What is the special interest of these people?

Recently, your whole team must be shameful to favour homosexuality. As they have to live in this society, do not favour homosexuality openly but within their hearts. Therefore their statements are ambiguous. If you analyse their statements, they score 50 points against and 110 points in the favour of homosexuality and in this way there is a difference of 60 positive points. So in a hidden way, alas! They are strongly in favour of homosexuality while the other religions (non-muslims) can not even think on it religiously and those who are thinking are not so much followers of their religions. Every thing is in front of you. You can see yourself and analyse the statements of your corrupt fellows and the so called religious scholars/leaders.

Next Time Many More!
JunaidHasan

GERMANY
Posted - Saturday, July 01, 2006  -  10:46 AM Reply with quote
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Edited by: junaidhasan on Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:05 PM
Zulfee

USA
Posted - Saturday, July 01, 2006  -  2:50 PM Reply with quote
Junaid hasan

You are not saying the truth within ur heart and the conscience!!
JunaidHasan

GERMANY
Posted - Saturday, July 01, 2006  -  10:15 PM Reply with quote
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Edited by: junaidhasan on Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:05 PM

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