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Topic initiated on Wednesday, April 19, 2006  -  7:36 PM Reply with quote
The problem isn't with Islam, but with wackos

Article by David Waters reproduced here

March 12, 2006

I wish every Christian in America could have heard what I heard the other night.

Two of the nation's most learned and respected religious scholars came to Memphis to talk about Islam and civic responsibility, two topics that don't always seem to go together.

Honestly, don't you sometimes wonder -- even the most open-minded and big-hearted among you -- if there's some inherent flaw in Islam?

Something in the Koran that turns devoted believers into homicidal maniacs? Something about "Allah" that turns faithful followers of the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, into terrorists and suicide bombers and angry mobs?

"There are a lot of crazy Muslims out there," one of the scholars acknowledged the other night.

"Wacky" was the word the other scholar used.

Such comments might have seemed inflammatory, except that they came from Shaykh Hamza Yusuf and Imam Zaid Shakir, both American-born converts to Islam, now two of the West's most influential Islamic scholars.

Before 9/11, both men were outspoken critics of American policy. Since then, both men have become two of the strongest and sanest Islamic voices for peace and civilized discourse.

Yusuf, 45, who grew up as Mark Hanson, a Greek Orthodox kid in suburban California, has become an adviser to President Bush.

"We Muslims have lost theologically sound understanding of our own teaching," Yusuf told The Guardian during the recent cartoon controversy.

"Islam has been hijacked by a discourse of anger and the rhetoric of rage. We have lost our bearings because we have lost our theology."

Shakir, 49, who grew up Baptist in inner-city Atlanta, served four years in the Air Force before his conversion.

"If we Muslims are going to contribute to changing how Islam and our Prophet are viewed in the West, we are going to have to change what we ourselves are doing to contribute to the caricaturing of Islam," Shakir wrote last month in a widely distributed essay.

"That change can only be affected by sound knowledge coupled with exalted practice, and reviving the lofty ethical ideal of our beloved Prophet."

Both men spoke extensively about the ethics of Islam the other night at the program sponsored by Muslims in Memphis.

They said the Prophet Muhammad would abhor the violence that is committed in the name of Allah. They called on true believers to defend the faith with love, compassion and humility, not anger, hatred and violence.

"The disgraceful behavior of many Muslims is a failure of adherence to the faith, a failure to live up to the true ideals of Islam," Yusuf said.

They referred often to the sayings of Muhammad, which include: Love for humanity what you love for yourself.

That's how most Muslims here and around the world practice their faith. There are more than a billion Muslims in the world. Nearly all of them are good, decent, kind, sane, faithful and law-abiding folks.

Yes, there are some crazy, wacky Muslims out there. The world has known more than a few crazy, wacky Christians, too. So-called Christians who sicced dogs on black children or lynched black men, who burned crosses or fellow Christians at the stake, who massacred Jews or annihilated native civilizations.

The inherent flaw in Islam is the same inherent flaw in all religions.

Divine instructions must be interpreted and applied by mortal beings.

Posted - Thursday, April 20, 2006  -  10:15 AM Reply with quote
Asalam Aalaikum,

Dear brother,

I agree with you to some extent but not completely,yes their are some bad muslims in the world who are spoiling the name of Islam but remember that their are bad sheeps in every society.

I have seen some conservative minded muslims who donot think with an open mind and misinterpret Islam and what ever they do ,they consider their acts as Islamic which is the most ignorant approach a person can ever take.

I have seen some people who think that no body has ever been to moon and try to justify their ignorance from a Qur'anic verse. What can a person say about such hopeless and ignorant people.


Posted - Thursday, April 20, 2006  -  10:20 AM Reply with quote
Let me correct you brother that their are no such inherent flaws in Islam , if this was the case, then the source from which Islam came to the world would had flaws and we know that Islam has reached mankind through Prophets of God so for mankind, source of Islam were Prophets.

Their are some traditions which have been fabricated during political changes that took place in the history of Islam but it doesnot mean that Islam as a whole contains flaws.

If Islam had flaws then it would not have been the fastest growing religion in the world.

I hope this helps,

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