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ibrahim
Moderator
PAKISTAN
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 Posted - Monday, October 20, 2008 - 6:38 AM 
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for the land which i have bought as an investment for my child education/marriage etc i have to pay zakat at the time i sell it and pay 10% of the amount considering it as industrial produce or should i pay 2.5% of it current market value every year ?
Zakat is due on this land 2.5% per annum. To pay it you may have TWO options: Pay the whole Amount of Zakat at the time of sale OR pay the annual amount in 12 or more equal/unequal instalments. |
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abdool101
NIGERIA
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Posted - Thursday, March 5, 2009 - 11:49 AM
Assalamualaikum
i failed worfully in my first test. but i tries in the secodn test. any amendment plz. and if not, when will i get my certificate.
Masallam |
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ibrahim
Moderator
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Friday, March 6, 2009 - 5:53 AM
wa alaikum us salaam dear
Don't worry about result,just concentrateon the understanding of the matter.You'll have ur certificate v soon. |
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abdool101
NIGERIA
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Posted - Friday, March 6, 2009 - 12:33 PM
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samra
UNITED KINGDOM
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Posted - Wednesday, May 12, 2010 - 7:11 PM
| We pay state Taxes here. Would 10 % Zakat on annual salary still apply? If yes, can we give it to the British Heart Foundation or Cancer Support UK? |
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ibrahim
Moderator
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Monday, May 17, 2010 - 7:12 AM
| u may deduct sales tax fm ur 10% & then you can pay to BHF or CS uk if u like |
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rizwansaleem
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Sunday, May 13, 2012 - 2:42 AM
Dear Teacher & Fellows: I have some questions from the second module of Zakat, Please help answer and understand the following:
1. How Zakat may be used to pay the salaries for all state employees?(It may only be used for paying salaries of those who play role in the management of zakat)
2. According to the manual Zakat may be used for all political expenditures for the betterment of Islam, but who will decide that what is betterment of Ilsam & Umah and how without the system of audit it can be ensured that funds are not misused?
3. Please explain the first and fifth point discussed in the end of module 02 of Zakat? The fifth point regarding zakat on leased property etc needs explanation with practical examples that how it can be applied today? The first point is totally not clear. |
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ibrahim
Moderator
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Friday, May 18, 2012 - 3:26 AM
Dear Rizwan
Here are the answers of ur Qs:
1- paying salaries of those who play role in the management of zakat is one opinion that is popular too. whereas Zakat can surely be used to pay the salaries for all state employees Bcoz in an Islamic System it is the STATE who is responsible to collect zakat, so it can pay salaries of ALL of its employees.
2- the deciding authority in Islamic System is the Ruler that must be selected on the basis of the opinion of the common ppl. He will consult parliament & they will keep a check upon him & there are courts too where even common ppl can go and Q the rulers.
3- I'm sorry Module is not b4 me right now. pl describe or copy paste the points for their answers.
thnx n regards |
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rizwansaleem
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Monday, May 28, 2012 - 8:52 AM
Dear Ibrahim Sb,
Please refer to my previous question and explain the following point of the second module of Zakat course:
"Fifthly, according to the above mentioned principle, zakah on leased-out houses,
properties and other rented items should be that which is levied on produce, and if
they are not rented out, its rate should be that which is levied on wealth".
Regards |
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ibrahim
Moderator
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Saturday, June 2, 2012 - 2:18 AM
dear I'm still not able to understand ur Qs.
pl writte ur Qs in clear words.
thanks n pl excuse |
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shahzadm
USA
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Posted - Thursday, June 21, 2012 - 5:26 PM
salam alikum,
I live in the United States. I have a question regarding the 10% zakat on production. Since based on Ghamidi sahib's ijtihad salary should be considered production and hence 10% zakat should be given I want to know if the government is taxing me 5% on wealth every year should I adjust my zakat on salary and pay the remaining 5%. Or should I pay 10% on top of the government tax. Since it is not an Islamic government what should I do? |
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rizwansaleem
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Friday, June 22, 2012 - 2:24 AM
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salam alikum,
I live in the United States. I have a question regarding the 10% zakat on production. Since based on Ghamidi sahib's ijtihad salary should be considered production and hence 10% zakat should be given I want to know if the government is taxing me 5% on wealth every year should I adjust my zakat on salary and pay the remaining 5%. Or should I pay 10% on top of the government tax. Since it is not an Islamic government what should I do?
Dear, I think this Ijtihad of taking produce of a human labourer like the produce of land has yet to be justified(What i have come to understand from the study of Meezan by Ghamdi Sahib that these all are his preliminary thoughts and needs to be well debated and thought before any practical use otherwise we all will be going in the wrong direction). Before any other argument I would like the comcerned to explain that how land and human can be alike? |
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ibrahim
Moderator
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Friday, June 22, 2012 - 11:56 AM
w Salam Mr. Shahzad
yes U can deduct the 5% Tax fm your Zakat Money n pay the REST 5% of Zakat though the govt. is not Islamic.
However, you must also check that your total annual income must be above the tax payable amount set by your govt. as this will be the NISAB for your Zakat Amount.
Mr. Rizwan, You are right that it's Ijtihaad n one who is accepting this Ijtihad have no Q upon it, he/she must act upon it.
However people like you may carry on understanding it n acting on the Traditional approach.
The basis of Ijtihad is simple:
* very few things must be exempted fm Zakat as Zakat is the ONLY TAX that an Islamic Govt. can take with power and it has to use it for its ALL purposes.
* at Prophet's time there was only LAND Production & now we have many other types of productions. Factory production is a BIG type of itnad Providing SERVICES is another MAIN type of it. The professional give there services nad what the earn is their production.
One may have some Qs regarding this Ijtihad as I myself hv someQs too But it does not look like an UNJUSTIFIED one. However you or anyone else has ALL the RIGHTS to REJECT it but it must be upon some STRONG reasoning. It's NOT enough to say that it's a NEW thing.
Regards |
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rizwansaleem
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Saturday, June 23, 2012 - 6:04 AM
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w Salam Mr. Shahzad
yes U can deduct the 5% Tax fm your Zakat Money n pay the REST 5% of Zakat though the govt. is not Islamic.
However, you must also check that your total annual income must be above the tax payable amount set by your govt. as this will be the NISAB for your Zakat Amount.
Mr. Rizwan, You are right that it's Ijtihaad n one who is accepting this Ijtihad have no Q upon it, he/she must act upon it.
However people like you may carry on understanding it n acting on the Traditional approach.
The basis of Ijtihad is simple:
* very few things must be exempted fm Zakat as Zakat is the ONLY TAX that an Islamic Govt. can take with power and it has to use it for its ALL purposes.
* at Prophet's time there was only LAND Production & now we have many other types of productions. Factory production is a BIG type of itnad Providing SERVICES is another MAIN type of it. The professional give there services nad what the earn is their production.
One may have some Qs regarding this Ijtihad as I myself hv someQs too But it does not look like an UNJUSTIFIED one. However you or anyone else has ALL the RIGHTS to REJECT it but it must be upon some STRONG reasoning. It's NOT enough to say that it's a NEW thing.
Regards
Dear Abrahim Sahib,
Thank you very much for your reply. This is objected not because of its newness but because of its weak basis. I personally agree that such concepts in any field in general and in religion in particular should not be accepted or rejected based on newness or oldness but based on strength or weakness. As in Meezan Ghamidi Sahib has introduced some new implications of the principles of Zakat(I personally take it a healthy practice) so it was necessary to explain each new point in detail(Anybody can see that in the chapter of Zakat there are certain issues which need explanation and details). There is a question that how newly proposed concepts in Zakat can be accepted by anyone without full satisfaction and justification (I think it is the right of everyone to ask for explanation and justification before accepting the things and same should be happily welcomed).
In your reply to my previous posts (And my two important posts still remain unreplied) you have not addressed my concern that how produce of land and produce of an individual can be same and treated alike? I request you to please update with your enlightened views. I have not agreed with the concept because both the produce of land and produce of a person are different and need to be treated differently for the purpose of Zakat. Please see how are these different? These are different in the following way:
1. Produce of the land is the result of the combination of three factors of production (land, labor and entrepreneurship/organization +capital) whereas produce of a person is the result/output of one factor of production .i.e. labor. How may they be equal?
Lets suppose Zafar(Entrepreneur) engages Sarmad(Laborer) on the hired piece of land for the cultivation of wheat. The land is owned by Zakir who will receive say Rs150000 as rent in the end of the year. Sarmad has been employed on the salary of Rs 10000 per Month. In the end of the season the total produce of the land is worth Rs 500000. If we use the way recommended by Ghamidi Sahib first 10% will be paid on Rs 500000 by Zafar about Rs50000(keeping the things simple suppose rate on the type of land applies is 10%), Sarmad will pay 10% on his salary(about 10% of 120000=Rs12000), Zakir will pay 10% of Rs15000=Rs15000. We should remember that what Zakir and sarmad have received is the part of Rs5000000 which is the final produce of the land. The total Zakat paid on the produce is 50000+12000+15000=75000 and actually Zakat at the rate of 15% has been paid on the produce of the land or in other view more than once Zakat has been paid.
If in the same case traditional view is taken only Zakat of Rs 50000 will be paid and Sarmad and Zakir will pay Zakat if the earned amount is equal to Zakat including other earnings or savings and one year has passed on them. Other conditions also apply.
In the above scenario it can also be understood that produce of land can not be similar to the produce of individual (consider Sarmad as individual). More examples can be considered for understanding the salaried individuals.
I personally think that production of an organization (both dealing in goods or services or combination of goods and services) may be considered similar to the produce of land for the purpose of Zakat but not of the individual.
Looking forward to learn from you if you would like to.
Regards |
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ibrahim
Moderator
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Saturday, June 30, 2012 - 3:59 AM
Dear Rizwan sahib
I'm deeply looking into ur Qs and Example n will come back to U ASAP
Thnx |
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ibrahim
Moderator
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Sunday, July 1, 2012 - 10:25 AM
in the mean time just consider these two things:
1- Zkat must be taken from max things as it's the only TAX that an Islamic govt van take
2- from ur example it looks u r not sure about the rates of zkat according to Mr Ghamidi. these are as follows: on wealth it is 2.5% & on production it is 10% (if wealth n labor both were needed) or 5% (if only one of the two things; wealth or labor was needed) |
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