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JunaidHasan
GERMANY
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 Topic initiated on Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 5:43 PM 
Module # 1: Verses of Tawbah & Ahzab
Assalamo'alaikum.
This course leaves out a great confusion regarding the collection of the Qur'an when it says that the verses of Tawbah and Ahzab were only found with Khuzaymah Ibn Thabit Ansari (RA). It should be clarified that the only source of these verses was not Khuzaymah (RA) but the other companions (RA) also knew and had memorized these verses. What is meant by saying that they were only found with Khuzaymah (RA) is that only he had them written with him under the direct supervision of the Prophet (SAW). This clarification may be seen in the muqadma of Marif-ul-Qur'an by Maulana Taqi Usmani.
Before closing, I must appreciate the efforts of the Studying Islam team for propagating the true message of Islam.
Thanks.
Sincerely,
Junaid
Edited by: JunaidHasan on Sunday, January 21, 2007 4:45 PM |
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Jhangeer Hanif
Moderator
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Monday, January 22, 2007 - 6:38 AM 
| For the benefit of other participants, could you please share with us the evidence adduced by Taqi Usmani Sb to support his viewpoint that these verses were also memorized by other compansions and that Khuzayman Ibn Thabit Ansari had only written these verses under the direct supervision of the Holy Prophet? |
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JunaidHasan
GERMANY
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Posted - Monday, January 22, 2007 - 12:26 PM
This is not understandable at all and, in fact, is impossible that the very verses may only be present with Khuzaymah (RA). I'm, honestly, very very amazed to read your concerns.
We know that the Qur'an has come down to us through the consensus of each generation. How is it possible that the other companions (RA) wouldn't have memorized the very verses? Regarding the verse of Ahzab, Zayd (RA) himself said that he used to hear Allah's Apostle reciting it. If, for one moment, I agree that these verses were only known by Khuzaymah (RA), the authenticity of these verses can easily be questioned as they become khabr-e-wahid. There were many companions (RA) who had memorized the whole Qur'an. Isn't it so? Do you think it is practical that they all had missed out these verses?
I really thought that you missed the explanation in the course but now am really astonished to know that you are really of the viewpoint that the only source was Khuzaymah (RA) for these verses.
Please discuss this point with the Teacher Ghamidi before commenting further on it. If I would be in Pakistan I would've gone to him straightaway. |
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Jhangeer Hanif
Moderator
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 5:57 AM
I did not give my opinion as to the factual correctness this report about Khuzaymah.
You said that this report has been explained by Taqi Usmani Sb. I asked for what he presented to support his viewpoint.
As for our views on the compilation and preservation of the Holy Qur'an, you will find ample material in the later Modules, where this report has been criticized. |
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Jhangeer Hanif
Moderator
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 5:57 AM
I did not give my opinion as to the factual correctness this report about Khuzaymah.
You said that this report has been explained by Taqi Usmani Sb. I asked for what he presented to support his viewpoint.
As for our views on the compilation and preservation of the Holy Qur'an, you will find ample material in the later Modules, where this report has been criticized. |
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JunaidHasan
GERMANY
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Posted - Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 12:54 PM
I'm sorry for interpreting your message wrongly. Thanks a lot for the clarification.
I don’t remember whether Mufti Taqi Usmani presented evidence that Khuzaymah (RA) was the only one who wrote it under the direct supervision of the Prophet (SAW). But the other point of him is obvious and needs no evidence that these verses would surely have been memorized by the other companions (RA) also. I’d try to see the book: Marful-Quran again. (He only wrote the introduction of that book, however, the very book is originally written by Mufti Muhammad Shafi.) |
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Jhangeer Hanif
Moderator
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 5:36 AM
| Yes, please do have a look at the intro again. Meanwhile, proceed with the next modules. |
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NOONSTAR
NIGERIA
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Posted - Friday, April 27, 2007 - 5:38 PM
i am registered member and have been undergoing course i.e interpreting quran.how can i get certificate at the end of the course.
thanks,masalam |
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Jhangeer Hanif
Moderator
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Monday, April 30, 2007 - 7:04 AM
| Once you complete the course, you will be emailed a certificate, of which you can get a printout, if needed. |
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tariq5
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Friday, November 9, 2007 - 1:09 AM
Aslamoalaikum
I have read the complaints and comments of the above topic and I strongly believe that the course modules should need some readjustments. I myself was confused while reading the first two modules until I haven't gone though the whole course. And the only adjustment I request is to add an good and comprehensive introduction about the course. The course in fact takes the contemporary or commonly believed views and in the later modules the corrected opnions are given.This is in fact a major topic of controversially and difficulty thoughout Islamic history and it must need much more explanation and elaboration. |
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Jhangeer Hanif
Moderator
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Monday, November 12, 2007 - 5:29 AM
| Thank you for your feedback. It will definitely be considered for improvement in the course. |
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