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atifrafi
PAKISTAN
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 Topic initiated on Tuesday, October 5, 2004 - 11:39 AM 
Opinion of Companions about Face Covering
Assalam o Alaikum,
I was reading some material on the same topic of some scholor in which it was written that many of the companions of the Prophet (sws) holds the opinion that its necessary for women to cover their face.
I was wandering that were there any companions who holds the opinion that its Not Necessary.
If someone can provide some names of the companions of the Prophet & some of the old scholors who says that Face Covering is not necessary.
Regards |
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muslim
CANADA
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Posted - Thursday, October 7, 2004 - 2:08 AM 
aslam o alaikum,
i know of hazrat Abbas R.A who explained the verses in Quran surah araf aayat 75.he covered his face and left one eye opened.he actually demonstarated this.
---i expect muslim brothers and sisters to correct me if im wrong.
peace be with you all. |
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atifrafi
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Thursday, October 7, 2004 - 6:13 AM
Brother muslim,
I thnink i need to exlain my question a little bit more :
You have said that Hazrat Abbas (r.t) explained in a way that FACE COVERING is COMPULSORY. I do agree with you that some of the Sahaba (r.t) holds this opinion but my question was totally OPPOSITE to this, what I was asking is there any one from the Sahaba (r.t) who holds the opinion that to cover a face in NOT COMPULSORY .
Secondly, You have mentioned that Hazrat Abbas (r.t) Explained the verse 75 of Surah Araf. Well I don't think that this verse is related to face covering. Please clarify that.
Regards |
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muslim
CANADA
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Posted - Monday, October 11, 2004 - 3:55 AM
aslam o alaikum,
with apologies---its surah al-AHZAB--aayat 59.
no i do not know of the saying of companions of not covering the face.
i would like to know,though.
wasalam |
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atifrafi
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Friday, October 22, 2004 - 1:23 PM
Assalam o Alaikum,
No response from many days...... Does that means that all of the Sahaba (rt) were agreed that to Cover a Face for women is compulsory ??
Waslaam |
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Jhangeer Hanif
Moderator
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Tuesday, November 2, 2004 - 6:34 AM
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atifrafi
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Tuesday, November 2, 2004 - 10:02 AM
Respected Mr. Jhangeer,
Thanks for the reply but I have still some confusions. I had a debate with one of my friends on the same topic and I told him about the Hadith about "Fadal Bin Abbas". His reply was "It was at the time of Hajj and during Hajj its not required to cover the face"
He was stressing that NO ONE from Sahaba holds this opinion and if all the Sahaba are agreed then it must have some sound ground.
I think I am able to explain my question.
Regards |
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Jhangeer Hanif
Moderator
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Friday, November 5, 2004 - 5:57 AM
Did you ask him why it is not required to cover the face during the hajj?
What does he present to substantiate that it is not required during Hajj? |
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atifrafi
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Friday, November 5, 2004 - 7:13 AM
Assalam o Alaikum,
Sir, his point was it was ordered by the prophet (sws) that women should not cover there face during hajj ( in Ihraam ) and he was saying that this is a proof that the women should cover their faces in normal circumstances.
What he was saying, "becuase the women usually cover their face that why there was a need of explicit order for Hajj, otherwise if women don't need to cover the face in normal circumstances then there was no need for the specific order.
Sir, I am also a bit confused that No One from the respected Sahaba holds the opinion that face covering is not obligatory.
Please help.
Regards |
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nsahib03
USA
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Posted - Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - 5:02 PM
Assalamu Alaikum,
I also agree with your friend that women should cover their face. I feel that this is a debate that will never end. Some people will not accept that face covering is obligatory while others will not accept that it is not obligatory.
But your friend made a good point that I also came upon. If the Prophet specifically said that women should not cover their faces during Hajj, then it was obligatory at other times. I like to think of this way. The reason we wear hijab is because we are not to attract the opposite gender. But more than the hair, dont you think that the face is the center of beauty and what everyone sees automatically. If you see someone, the first thing you see is their face, and so to me it seems that one should cover their face.
There was a time when i went to an islamic conference and i saw this other woman. She was beautiful mashallah. And i was wondering she has her hair covered, wearing a burka. But her face is not. But I know that if another man had seen her, he would definitely be attracted.
My final comment is that I think it is better to be safe than sorry.
Assalamu Alaikum,
Sister Nabeela |
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Jhangeer Hanif
Moderator
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Thursday, January 27, 2005 - 12:40 PM
I feel no problem with your final comment, sister. I mean I feel no need to contradict you when you say that you cover your face. Actually, the problem arises when you say that it is obligatory and on its basis, call upon others to abide by this.
When we talk about attraction, there is no end to the feeling. This may be felt from the mere eyes that one look into, and by looking at the hands, which are usually equally beautiful, and from the mere form of the lady standing before us. To save the society from ill emotions is definitely an objective of the hijaab directives. But first and foremost objective is to purify the soul of the lady first. I mean the hijab directives are first for the lady herself (man himself) and then, as a byprodcut, the objective to save the society from moral curruption is achieved.
I would like atifrafi to quote the entire Hadith here so that we can see what it is actually saying. To discern a positive instruction of Islam regarding face covering on the basis of a negative instruction of the Holy Prophet, pbuh, is not a correct manner.
As for your practice of covering, please do not feel that I am disapproving of it. We are only discussing whether it is positively required by the Shari'ah? If it is required by your sense of modesty, I feel no problem. I would rather pray to the Lord that He may bless you for your attachment with the Lord. |
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perv1
UNITED KINGDOM
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Posted - Friday, January 28, 2005 - 10:47 PM
Salaam
Hijab, or face covering is not a problem if an individual feels that is how they are comfortable as Muslims. However I do have problem when these individuals start defining this as an absolute rule for all Muslim women. There is no such compulsion in Quran. Intersting how the directive of not covering the face during Haj has been intereperted here. Surely the most obvious conclusion would be that if covering of face was not allowed during the Haj then it is not such an important issue.
The attraction point, as indicated by J Hanif, is also a slightly dubious arguement. As what attracts individuals to each other can vary. Writing, voice, views etc can all be source of an attraction without ever seeing an individual.
There is no hardship in following Islam according to the Quran.
If God had wanted all Muslim to women to wear Hijab or cover their faces then it would have just required one sentence in the Quran. |
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atifrafi
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Thursday, February 3, 2005 - 12:37 PM
Salaam,
Respected Jhangeer Sb, I told you that this was told to me by someone and I am unable to find the exact Hadith. I'll be obliged if you can guide me. I hope that you know about the hadith I am talking about.
I hope you will help.
I also want to remind you that my main question is still unanswered. I think your point is very logical and I aslo agree to this, but I am confused only for one thing that isn't there anyone fron the respected companions of the Prophet(sws) who holds the same opinion. On the other hand people opposing your point do quote some of the companions. I don't remember the exact names but I think one of them is Ibn-e-Abbas (rt).
Regards
Edited by: atifrafi on Thursday, February 03, 2005 12:40 PM |
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