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Jhangeer Hanif
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PAKISTAN
Topic initiated on Wednesday, February 23, 2005  -  1:43 PM Reply with quote
Module2: Using Pefumes


What is the implication that the Holy Prophet forbade Muslim women to wear strong perfumes, when going outside.
Sweet16

USA
Posted - Sunday, March 6, 2005  -  6:22 AM Reply with quote
Salaam Alaikum.
Always pray that all of u brothers & sisters in ISlam are good by the grace of Allah (SWT).
From the answers I've collected from people, the following is what I got:
I'm sorry I don't really have a Hadith to support what I am saying and also I don't even think I deserve to answer this question since I'm a perfume user myself however, may we all change for the good as time passes by, Ameen.
Perfume whether strong or mild is Haraam in Islam because the majority of them contain Alcohol and using alcohol to nourish our body is forbidden. Also, I've also read that you wouldn't drink Alcohol right because it could kill you therefore why would you wear it on your body? However, this is not such a strong way to prove my point since there are some non-toxication alcohols as well. But from something I remember, it's not a hadith but in generel it is said that things that may attract non-mehrams like make-up, tacky jewerlies should not be worn in public and perfume definetly falls in this category. I really hope my knowledge has made some difference and sense. I'm sure other sisters & brothers here know better. In my opinion, just don't use the things which you have doubts about...
Fi'amanillah
Jhangeer Hanif
Moderator

PAKISTAN
Posted - Sunday, March 6, 2005  -  8:31 AM Reply with quote
Indeed, we improve day by day, insha Allah, if we set our eyes on the nobler ideals.

We need also to continue to gain knowledge as much as it relates to our daily affairs. I appreciate that you have replied to the post above. I would like you to please elaborate how drinking something and sprikling it on dress can be equated.
Sweet16

USA
Posted - Sunday, March 6, 2005  -  9:04 PM Reply with quote
The part where you have said that we must "gain knowledge as much as it realtes to our daily affairs" has touched my heart and it is very true, something I really beleive in as we all should too. Inshallah as soon as I collect more information on how drinking and sprinkling something like alcohol can be compared then I will provide you with the details ASAP.
Till then, Fi'amanillah
jeffrey

USA
Posted - Thursday, August 18, 2005  -  9:00 PM Reply with quote
Just a thought regarding the wearing of perfumes, fragrances, and the like.

It seems to me that if one follows modesty, and hence the glorification of Allah (SWT) then these applications would indeed be Haraam, since the result of their applications-on men or women-is generally to glorify either the wearer or the substance, and not Allah (SWT). And those applications which are alchohol based would seem to be Haraam, since alchohol is forbidden.
On the other hand, it seems to me that the application of soaps, even those resulting in mild fragrance, would be alright if the idea is to acheive cleanliness and to remove objectionable odors and not to advertise or glorify oneself or the application. So it is much in the intention of how the fragrence is used.
Shukran,
Salam11
Jhangeer Hanif
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PAKISTAN
Posted - Tuesday, August 23, 2005  -  12:23 PM Reply with quote
Thank you for your feedback. I however do not understand how you say that perfumes are haraam. When we use perfumes we do not glorify ourselves against the Almighty like wearing a dress is not to glorify yourself contrary to God.

It needs to be remebered that Allah has warned us not to say that Zeenat is haraam that Allah has created for his men. (7:32) I understand that alchohol is forbidden for us to drink. However, nowhere it has been made unlawful to be used in perfumes because they do not intoxicate you.

And what do you think of perfumes that are bereft of alchohol?
jeffrey

USA
Posted - Monday, August 29, 2005  -  6:20 PM Reply with quote
Al salamu alaykum,
I stand corrected regarding my comments that alchohol used for cosmetics is haraam-it's apparent to me that the Quran's references are to alchohol forbidden in consumption, as taken into the body. But I do believe that cosmetics should be used modestly, to create a nice fragrance, but not to advertise oneself.
I try to use only soaps that are bereft of alchohol-my personal preference is to use only natural (no artificial chemicals) soaps (I like and use African black soaps). I am concerned that many artificial chemicals used as cosmetics lead to damage-especially accelerated drying-to the skin.
But again, the Quran's forbidden use of alchohol clearly references only consumption.
Shukran,
Jeffrey
Aidan

PAKISTAN
Posted - Monday, June 18, 2007  -  8:13 PM Reply with quote
aslamu alaikum! i have a confusion about this perfume matter.here in pakistan in extreme hot weather and humidity,using perfume is an absolute necessity,i try not to wear the strong perfumes but deodrants and mild perfumes are necessary in order to mask the severe smell of sweating.is this haraam?
raushan

UNITED ARAB EMIRATES
Posted - Tuesday, June 19, 2007  -  9:53 AM Reply with quote
Can We Use Perfumes ?
Final prohibition of intoxication was imposed vide the following verse: O believers, intoxicants and games of chance and idols and divining arrows are only an infamy of Satan’s handiwork. Leave it aside in order that you may succeed. (5:90)

In the above verse, intoxication and gambling are declared satanic acts. No scholar from the above verse deduces that touching the playing cards or gambling arrows is unlawful. Their use in gambling is prohibited. On the same logic, alcohol itself is not unclean but its consumption is forbidden. What is Satanic about intoxicants and gambling? The Quran explains in the next verse: ‘Satan intends to create enmity and hatred among you by means of intoxicants and gambling and he seeks to turn you from remembrance of Allah and from Salat. Will you then desist’? (5:91)

It is also clear that the enemity and hatred is created from consuming intoxicants and playing games of chance. It is not created by touching alcohol or cards. Another pointer in the above verse is that by means of these evils Satan intends to keep you away from Salat. Now, there is another verse dealing with the subject of intoxicants and Salat, which may make the answer to the query more comprehensible. It states: O believers, do not go nearby Salat when you are intoxicated till you comprehend what you utter (4:43)

The verse specifies the duration of keeping away from Salat when one is in a state of intoxication. It is not instructed to keep away till he takes a bath. He who is under the influence of intoxicants has to keep away from Salat till his mind is clear enough to comprehend what he says. In the same verse, it is directed that a bath is required to go nearby Salat when one is unclean from sexual discharge. If alcohol were unclean to touch, a bath would have been necessary for one who became polluted from touching it.

On the basis of above hints from Quran it is clear that though some Scholars prefer being cautious, there is no harm in using perfumes containing alcohol.

http://www.islamicvoice.com/2001-05/dialogue.htm
Jhangeer Hanif
Moderator

PAKISTAN
Posted - Tuesday, June 19, 2007  -  11:46 AM Reply with quote
I agree with your conclusion.
Aidan

PAKISTAN
Posted - Tuesday, June 19, 2007  -  7:44 PM Reply with quote
i am sorry, i think didnt put my question properly!i meant, if usin perfume in above mentioned condition, is haraam for ladies or not?whether it conatains alcohol or not,is a lady allowed to wear a perfume when necessary?
Jhangeer Hanif
Moderator

PAKISTAN
Posted - Wednesday, June 20, 2007  -  6:43 AM Reply with quote
Yes, she can. However, the Holy Prophet (sws) has advised ladies not to wear strong perfumes.
UmmIsmael

USA
Posted - Friday, November 16, 2007  -  7:57 AM Reply with quote
Assalaulaikum everyone. I think that the point is that perfume in itself, in any form (not what is in every soap, deodorant, powder, etc... and can not be avoided) but put on the body as perfume with the sole intention of smelling good, should not be worn by ladies who are going outside their houses. The smell can attract even if the men do not look at her, even if he does not see her (because she is in a crowd or hidden). Most importantly, the Prophet (SAW) forbade Muslim women in strong words from wearing it when we leave our homes. (When she is in her own home, it can be part of what she does to beautify herself for her husband and be a cause of blessings for her) I will have to find the hadith and post it, Insha Allah.
UmmIsmael

USA
Posted - Friday, November 16, 2007  -  9:16 AM Reply with quote
Assalamulaikum again to everyone. This is what I found. It is in Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 32, Number 4037.
The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: I do not ride on purple, or wear a garment dyed with saffron, or wear shirt hemmed with silk. Pointing to the collar of his shirt al-Hasan (al-Basri) said: The perfume used by men should have an odour but no colour, and the perfume used by women should have a colour but no odour.

Sa'id said: I think he said: They interpreted his tradition about perfume used by women as applying when she comes out. But when she is with her husband, she may use any perfume she wishes.
(I was taught that perfume with color and no odor means safron or henna- You cannot smell it unless you are very close.)
I also found hadith about a woman not going to the masjid after putting on perfume. Sahih Muslim Book 004, Number 0893, for example and ones next to it.
I did find references to hadith that have stronger wording in them regarding this prohibition, but I could not find the sources.
Jhangeer Hanif
Moderator

PAKISTAN
Posted - Tuesday, November 20, 2007  -  5:30 AM Reply with quote
Thanks for your feedback. Have you gone through the course of "Norms of Gender Interaction"?
azninasiti

MALAYSIA
Posted - Tuesday, September 23, 2008  -  8:29 AM Reply with quote
Men's perfume should be colourless yet has strong smell while ladies' perfumes should be more colourful yet has weak smell

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