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Jhangeer Hanif
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PAKISTAN
Topic initiated on Saturday, January 10, 2004  -  7:52 PM Reply with quote
Module2: Hair Dye


What is your view on using hair dye?
Tahayyah666

USA
Posted - Wednesday, June 9, 2004  -  11:00 AM Reply with quote
As Salaamu Alikum
I believe there is nothing wrong with dyeing you hair, However if you choose to dye you hair I belive you shouldn't go to the extream. For example not green , blue , white , rainbow and so on. I belive it should look nice but not out of control.
Jhangeer Hanif
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PAKISTAN
Posted - Saturday, June 19, 2004  -  2:28 PM Reply with quote
How do you define nice? Someone may find it nice to dye their hair blue or dark red etc?
sidrah

UNITED KINGDOM
Posted - Sunday, June 20, 2004  -  1:01 PM Reply with quote
thats the problem with defineing ABNORMALITY. every1 has their own views of wht is normal and wht is not normal. ABNORMALITY can never have a universal meaning. so wht is nice 2 me, u might think i'm weird of abnormal just because u think thats nasty.
Jhangeer Hanif
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PAKISTAN
Posted - Monday, June 21, 2004  -  11:43 AM Reply with quote

What about the common 'prototypes' (about normal and abnormal) that we have as a result of having an upbringing in a particular society? What is implied in this question may be more appreciated by thinking of a society which is somewhat secure from the onslaugts of a foreign cultures and ideas.

mohawkbearclan5

USA
Posted - Sunday, December 12, 2004  -  1:15 AM Reply with quote
TextText[I think that it is OK to use hair dye, but it should be a color that occurs naturally.font=Verdana]Text
Jhangeer Hanif
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PAKISTAN
Posted - Monday, December 13, 2004  -  9:07 AM Reply with quote
Red occurs naturally. Do you think it is okay to use red color?

or do you mean to say that the colors which occur NATURALLY in our hair?
sunrise2005

PAKISTAN
Posted - Tuesday, January 4, 2005  -  8:51 PM Reply with quote
Asalam o Alaikum
I am a new student here, Want to reply for Mr. Jhangeer Hanif question. We can use natural black color in order to dye hair, or we can use Mahndi for this purpose, but I don't think so that red color seems to be natural. May be by using Mahndi if someone's hair color seems like redish brown then its fine, as Hazrat Abu Bakar (RA) used mehndi.
W'Salam
Jhangeer Hanif
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PAKISTAN
Posted - Wednesday, January 5, 2005  -  3:43 PM Reply with quote
I appreciate your answer. I however would request that you please tell me what is your argument for accepting natural black and the colour of the Mehandi only?

You have quoted the act of Abu Bakar, rta, as far as redish brown is concerned but no word about black?
sunrise2005

PAKISTAN
Posted - Wednesday, January 5, 2005  -  4:40 PM Reply with quote
Thank you Sir for appreciating my answer.
I didn't say that the hair color of Hazrat Abu Bakar RA was redish brown, I just read in hadith that he used mehndi.
Now about the argument that why natural black color or mehndi ? In Sahi Muslim Hazrat Jabbir RA told that our Muhammad SAW said to dye the color and don't use dark black color. I just mentioned the concept of that hadith. So this is the reason that our Prophet SAW also dislike this thing. If I am not wrong then Hazrat Muhammad SAW also used mehndi, am I right Sir?
And Shaba Karam RA also uses mehndi so we should have to follow them.
Hope I answered the question.
Thanks.
Jhangeer Hanif
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PAKISTAN
Posted - Friday, January 7, 2005  -  3:11 PM Reply with quote
You did answer!

Can you copy and paste here the complete hadith, of you which you talk about?
perv1

UNITED KINGDOM
Posted - Tuesday, January 25, 2005  -  10:29 PM Reply with quote
If hair dye is not permitted because it is not in Hadith or no precedent in Islam. Then do we abandon all that has no Islamic precedent or is not mentioned in the Hadith?
Jhangeer Hanif
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PAKISTAN
Posted - Tuesday, March 8, 2005  -  1:20 PM Reply with quote
No. We are not obligated to abandon it. But how do you see all the novel things for which we have no precedent in times of the Prophet, sws?
perv1

UNITED KINGDOM
Posted - Wednesday, March 9, 2005  -  7:42 PM Reply with quote
I was merely pointing out the absurdity of the debate
Jhangeer Hanif
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PAKISTAN
Posted - Thursday, March 17, 2005  -  1:01 PM Reply with quote
It would be great if you could also point out why this is absurd. Since there may be things in the present age, for which we may give the verdict of 'not allowed' only because of a subtle violation of some Islamic principle and not because it was directly prohibited by Islam. For instance, to be a surrogate mother is in contradiction with the spirit of Islam.
perv1

UNITED KINGDOM
Posted - Friday, March 18, 2005  -  4:25 PM Reply with quote
It would be great if you could also point out why this is absurd. Since there may be things in the present age, for which we may give the verdict of 'not allowed' only because of a subtle violation of some Islamic principle and not because it was directly prohibited by Islam. For instance, to be a surrogate mother is in contradiction with the spirit of Islam.

Your question on the surface seems very simple, however I think as you are aware, it is an extremely complex issue for which I am not sure I have the literary skills to fully respond in writing however I will make a brief attempt:
In the Quran, which as a muslim is my only source of reference of what is permitted and what is not, God's instruction on what is forbidden and what is allowed are absolutely clear e.g. pork, alcohol etc. Quran also provides us with moral code which enables us to reach decisions on vast number of issues,for which there is no clear guidance, this is delibrate and enables laws and rules to be hanged with changing circumstances e.g. speed of a vehicle depending on the motorway or a residential area. It is my humble opinion that it is for this reason that many issues have been deliberately left open. Issues which have no effect on morality or deterimental efffet on other life forms are of no consequence, hence my term absurd. Hair colour, lenght of hair etc have no relevance to our character and morality but simply taste of different individual. Fot just as we have different taste in food and clothes.

For instance, to be a surrogate mother is in contradiction with the spirit of Islam.

How is it in contradiction with the spirit of Islam. I assume you are refering to the refernce, in the Quran, about adopted children being given the natural parents name. Islam does not prohibit adoption therefore if surrogacy is to provide a child for infertile couple who will care, nurture and love that child then what exactly is wrong with that. Are you aware of the heartache and misery that is caused by being childless involuntarily. However surrogacy where the prime motive is purely to make money then it is a completetly different issue.

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