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[quote]dear brother ali, thanks for the detailed reply. I need some further clarifications to satisfy myself on the following: 1. ((REPLY:- Prophet Muhammad was the first to write down the Quran revealed to him and when he died , the whole Quran was completely written, although not in one book, but rather on pieces of woods, papers, palm leaves, bones…etc. It was the first Khalifa, Abu Bakr who collected the Quran into one book)) [b][u]what is the source of this confirmation? who has reported this claim that the first khalifa abu bakr collected the Quran in one book? plz name that person and the book ,whom you believed so blindly.[/u][/b] [b]what are those standards you have set to check the calim of a person or book to be true? Are these people who have written such statements in their book/books satisfying those standards.[/b] 2.((This copy of the Quran, was the only copy made after Muhammad's own copy. It is from that copy that Uthman, the third Khalifa, made other copies to distribute to different regions of the Islamic Empire. Uthman returned Hafsa's copy of the Quran to her. Her copy however was later burned by Marwan b. Hakam (d.65/684).)) [u][b]It is history ,that there was a first then second then third khalifa, who distributed Quran.. Do you believe history so blindly written by a common man? who is this man/woman, whom you believe word by word? why?[/b][/u] 3.(((So brother your thinking that “The holy Quran is reached to our hands in 20th century through same way as the Ahadeeth came” is completely baseless & wrong.))) Quote:- The holy Quran is reached to our hands in 20th century through the same hands who carried the Ahadeeth. How can we judge their authenticity that they have mixed up in one book and not in the others. [u][b] I quote "same hands"you say "same way" By same hands I mean the people who copied the quran as it is and distributed to different regions of the Islamic Empire. These are the people who were also the source of Ahadeeth.[/b][/u] 4.((What does mean to say worship GOD ALONE?)) (should i pray alone or in jamaa') [b][u] I simply asked you that weather i should pray "alone" or in jamaa' means in "congregation' you took the other meaning leaving half of the comment[/u][/b]. 5.Many thanks for guiding me on the salah,I visited your recommended page http://www.quran-islam.org/165.html qiblah: http://www.quran-islam.org/175.html [u][b]I found the below taken from above webpage very confusing plz clear this the sacred majid is same as common muslim belief "khana e kaba" in mecca(KSA)[/b][/u] ((So to summarize, here is the sequence of events: 1- In pre-Quranic times and during the early years of the revelation, there were multiple Qiblah's. Each people had their own Qiblah. 2- Sometime during the revelation to Muhammad God sets the Qiblah to the Sacred Masjid. 3- For a short period of time the Qiblah was changed as a test for the true believers. 4- Shortly after, the Qiblah was reset to the Sacred Masjid were it remained fixed up to our present day.)) SALAT POSITIONS http://www.quran-islam.org/171.html ((The greater majority of Quranic verses speak of bowing and prostrating in that order. This seems the logical progression from the standing position, i.e. standing then bowing then prostrating.)) [b][u]"This seems the logical progression " [/u] [/b] [b]How did you applied your own logic to pray in th is order moreover "seems" means you are not sure /clear.[/b] ((The Salat ends with the last prostration)) [b]when there is the last prostration ,there must be one ,two or n numbers of prostrations...[/b] [b]who said?how can we believe that The Salat ends with the last prostration.Plz give a clear command or proof.[/b] (((*Although there is no specific command to read the Key (Fatihah) in particular in the salat, yet since it is the opening of the book and it comprises a call to Allah in all its words, then it is appropriate to read it in the opening of our Salat. )))) [b][u]How come you applied the logic again when "there is no specific command to read the Key (Fatihah) in particular in the salat".Isnt this innovation?[/u][/b] ((Bearing in mind that God informs us that He does not wish us any hardship in practicing our religion, thus it is sensible to read the relatively longer passages (such as the Key) in the standing position rather than the bowing or prostrating so that the ill and old would not over-burden their frail bodies. Consequently, the recitation of the Key (Al-Fatiha) in the standing position is what all Muslims do.)) [u]"thus it is sensible to read the relatively longer passages "[/u] [b] how can we find ways by just saying this is [u]sensible /logical/seems[/u]?we must have a proof and clear cut guidelines on that.[/b] Let us follow QUran alone and dont use our brains to find out the ways . ((To me whatever Almighty Allah commands through his BOOK i.e. the Qur’an we must obey that without any alteration and addition. HE told us through Muhammad(pbuh) or through the Qur’an that we should not seek any other source/judge as our source of religious law. If we do so i.e. if we seek any other source besides Qur’an as our source of Islam, then it will be proved that we are doing SHIRK with HIM, which is unforgivable sin.))) plz advice, wassalam Edited by: raushan on Monday, August 07, 2006 12:41 PM[/quote]
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