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[quote][quote]w Salam Mr. Shahzad

yes U can deduct the 5% Tax fm your Zakat Money n pay the REST 5% of Zakat though the govt. is not Islamic.

However, you must also check that your total annual income must be above the tax payable amount set by your govt. as this will be the NISAB for your Zakat Amount.

Mr. Rizwan, You are right that it's Ijtihaad n one who is accepting this Ijtihad have no Q upon it, he/she must act upon it.
However people like you may carry on understanding it n acting on the Traditional approach.
The basis of Ijtihad is simple:
* very few things must be exempted fm Zakat as Zakat is the ONLY TAX that an Islamic Govt. can take with power and it has to use it for its ALL purposes.
* at Prophet's time there was only LAND Production &amp; now we have many other types of productions. Factory production is a BIG type of itnad Providing SERVICES is another MAIN type of it. The professional give there services nad what the earn is their production.

One may have some Qs regarding this Ijtihad as I myself hv someQs too But it does not look like an UNJUSTIFIED one. However you or anyone else has ALL the RIGHTS to REJECT it but it must be upon some STRONG reasoning. It's NOT enough to say that it's a NEW thing.

Regards[/quote]
Dear Abrahim Sahib,

Thank you very much for your reply. This is objected not because of its newness but because of its weak basis. I personally agree that such concepts in any field in general and in religion in particular should not be accepted or rejected based on newness or oldness but based on strength or weakness. As in Meezan Ghamidi Sahib has introduced some new implications of the principles of Zakat(I personally take it a healthy practice) so it was necessary to explain each new point in detail(Anybody can see that in the chapter of Zakat there are certain issues which need explanation and details). There is a question that how newly proposed concepts in Zakat can be accepted by anyone without full satisfaction and justification (I think it is the right of everyone to ask for explanation and justification before accepting the things and same should be happily welcomed). 
In your reply to my previous posts (And my two important posts still remain unreplied) you have not addressed my concern that how produce of land and produce of an individual can be same and treated alike? I request you to please update with your enlightened views. I have not agreed with the concept because both the produce of land and produce of a person are different and need to be treated differently for the purpose of Zakat. Please see how are these different? These are different in the following way:
1.	Produce of the land is the result of the combination of three factors of production (land, labor and entrepreneurship/organization +capital) whereas produce of a person is the result/output of one factor of production .i.e. labor. How may they be equal? 
Lets suppose Zafar(Entrepreneur) engages Sarmad(Laborer) on the hired piece of land for the cultivation of wheat. The land is owned by Zakir who will receive say Rs150000 as rent in the end of the year. Sarmad has been employed on the salary of Rs 10000 per Month. In the end of the season the total produce of the land is worth Rs 500000. If we use the way recommended by Ghamidi Sahib first 10% will be paid on Rs 500000 by Zafar about Rs50000(keeping the things simple suppose rate on the type of land applies is 10%), Sarmad will pay 10% on his salary(about 10% of 120000=Rs12000), Zakir will pay 10% of Rs15000=Rs15000. We should remember that what Zakir and sarmad have received is the part of Rs5000000 which is the final produce of the land. The total Zakat paid on the produce is 50000+12000+15000=75000 and actually Zakat at the rate of 15% has been paid on the produce of the land or in other view more than once Zakat has been paid.
If in the same case traditional view is taken only Zakat of Rs 50000 will be paid and Sarmad and Zakir will pay Zakat if the earned amount is equal to Zakat including other earnings or savings and one year has passed on them. Other conditions also apply. 
In the above scenario it can also be understood that produce of land can not be similar to the produce of individual (consider Sarmad as individual). More examples can be considered for understanding the salaried individuals.

I personally think that production of an organization (both dealing in goods or services or combination of goods and services) may be considered similar to the produce of land for the purpose of Zakat but not of the individual.

Looking forward to learn from you if you would like to.

Regards[/quote]

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