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[quote]Assalam-u-Alaikum,

[quote] Is there not even a slightest hint of contradiction here? If you can accept something as an integral part of Islam which even you yourself acknowldge has inaccuracies in it then my friend that is up to you. We will all be ultimately responsible for our own actions and beliefs. [/quote]I do not believe it to be an "integral part of Islam".

[quote] Ok lets accept your version above. Are you suggesting that we accept hadith books as narration of Allah. Otherwise how do you reconcile the verse quoted by yourself and your beleif in hadith. [/quote]As I explained, I don’t think that the verse is even connected to what you are saying. It was referring to the direct addressees of the Prophet (pbuh) who were stubbornly and arrogantly rejecting him and the revelations that he recited to them. Here Allah (swt) is asking, who after Allah (swt) will be able to reason with them?

That said; the Ahadith are not [i]"narrations of Allah"[/i]. They are narrations ascribed to the Prophet (pbuh).

[quote]I am not sure the relevance of you mentioning Mr khalifa. I assume you are trying to suggest somehow your points have greater merit by simply associating others with Mr khalifa. For you information It is only recently that I have heard of the above and at present my knowledge of his work is very limited to make a comment. I can also only assume that you are implying I am somehow influenced by Mr Khalifa. Ever since I was a teenager, which was few decades ago, I have found the hadith books to be very flawed-which at the time was very painful and difficult to understand. If you have issues with Mr Khalifa I suggest you raise them with his followers. [/quote]I did say “and his likes”. Your interpretation of the verse seemed to echo exactly what he says. You know – translating every word but refusing to translate the word 'Hadith' to give the impression that it is referring to the Hadith compilations which were compiled centuries afterwards? When we keep the context in mind, I think that we can recognise such an interpretation to be pretty flawed. Imagine that someone were to say that since Allah (swt) refers to His revelation by the word 'Hadith' that therefore the Hadith literature must be part of His revelation. What would you think of that?

Still, I suppose you are right. I shouldn't be associating a person with someone that he has not associated himself with. So, please do accept my apology.

[quote] Since we seem to disagree with each other so fundamentally it is difficult to point any particular percieved inaccuracies.[/quote]Perhaps we aren’t even in as big a disagreement as we think?

[quote]My friend If the discussion becames a debate for our egos to prove that our prejudices are correct then it serves no purpose other than create unnecessary negative feelings. [/quote]So let us try and keep it calm and steady Inshallah.

regards

Edited by: Hischam khan on Saturday, April 30, 2005 2:11 AM[/quote]

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