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[quote][quote] “If you are looking at Islam there is no room for for even slightest falsehood or contradiction. However if you are looking at hadith book merely as asource of history then that that is a completely different issue.” [/quote]Like I said, it is a source of history. It is about the Prophet’s (p) life and environment. He is an important figure. Therefore, though it is a source of history, it is more special to us. What is contained in it will be an example for us. A source of history on his life will inevitably have lots of information on how he practiced, preached and understood the religion. Such a thing can be very valuable. Therefore, if the information is shown to be authentic and there is no reason to doubt it, then why reject it? [quote] “why is it of a value?” [/quote]Historic information is always valuable. This is more so the case here, seeing as the Ahadith contain background information on the Holy Qur’an. It also tells us lots about the life of the Prophet (p) and how he handled the many situations in life in accordance with the religion. This can be inspirational for us. [quote] “How can you be so sure that there is no doubt when you yourself accept that some of thhe hadiths are not accurate.” [/quote]Why paint them all under the same brush? If [i]“some of the Hadiths are not accurate”[/i] why reject those that are? The Ahadith are separate narrations narrated from various individuals. There can be several reasons why a narration may not be accurate. It could be that the narrators are unreliable or that they misunderstood. However, I cannot see why we would reject all the other narrations too. It is not like they are all the product of one writer. So, what for? The most decent, sensible thing is to accept the reliable and remove the unreliable. After all, a vast amount of information on historic personalities exists and the historians would not reject all information on these personalities merely because they stumbled upon certain information which they are sceptical about. This defies common sense. [quote] “I am afraid you are the one interpreting the word and its meaning I have simply left it intact.” [/quote]Ha! But this is the point. By leaving it [i]“intact”[/i] you are actually also interpreting. You are expressing the view that the word was used as a term. By doing so you change the meaning of what was implied. Huh, if we are not allowed to translate the word, why bother translating any of it at all? [quote] “What do you think God means by the sentence- which hadith other than the Quran are you going believe.” [/quote]This is precisely what I meant. In the above, you have taken one sentence out of the Qur’an – thereby removing it from the context – while refusing to translate the word [i]“Hadith”[/i] in order to give the impression that the Qur’an was referring to narrations (i.e. the Ahadith) which ironically were only collected and compiled way after the completion of the revelation of the Qur’an. This, my friend, I see as an example of a gross misinterpretation of a piece of literature. I have already explained this verse as follows under another thread: [center][purple]It (i.e. the verse) actually asks a rhetorical question. After presenting certain signs in the preceding verses it asks: “Then in which speech other than Allah and His Ayat will they believe?” Surah 45:6 The implication being “none”. In other words, if they don’t listen to the Almighty, to whom then will they listen and who else will be able to reason with these arrogant people?[/purple][/center] Still, let us look at the context: [hl][center]"Ha-Mim. The revelation of this Book is from Allah, the All-Mighty, the All-Wise. The fact is that there are countless signs in the heavens and the earth for those who believe. And in your own creation and in the animals, whom Allah is scattering (all over the earth), there are signs for all those who affirm faith. And in the differences of the night and the day, and in the provisions that Allah sends down from the heaven, whereby He revives the earth after its death, and in the circulations of the winds, there are many signs for those who use their common sense. These are the revelations of Allah, which We are rehearsing to you in truth. Then what narration is there after Allah and His revelations that they will believe?"[/center][/hl][b]– Surah Al Jathiyah 45:1-6 [/b] I think this is self explanatory. [quote] “I am not sure why you are so convinced that you are ideas so right and others merely clutching, exactly which text supports your prejudices. Perhaps ou can start a course on how to interpret the literature correctly then no one will ever disagree with your interpretation.” [/quote]Oh, but disagreements will always exist. You are upset but understand that the [i]tone makes the music![/i] If you are going to be as blunt as you were in sharing your thoughts, why should I not return the favour at least once in a while? Sometimes we need a little taste of our own medicine. The point is clear, Rashad Khalifa and his like; interpret the verse as though it was directly addressing the Muslims that came centuries after the Revelation of the Qur’an. He attempts to makes it look as though the verse refers to the compilation of the Ahadith. By doing so, he ignores a simple rule of literature – the background of the revelation. Who was first being addressed? It was those who were rejecting God and His revelation. It says concerning them: [hl][center]“Then what narration is there after Allah and His revelations that they will believe?”[/center][/hl] The Muslims were not being addressed by this verse neither do they reject Allah (swt) or His revelations. The Ahadith are merely a compilation of reports on various occasions of the Prophet’s (pbuh) life. The verse has nothing to do with this. Interestingly, Mr Khalifa himself uses Ahadith when it suits him. Do correct me where you think I have been inaccurate.[/quote]
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