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[quote]Assalam alaikum,

Thank you saadiamalik. This settles the issue that nikkah should not be hidden from first wife or any one else, that might be construed as debauchery by the husband.

But does the husband need her permission? That is the question now.

As for Junaid, please read again what you said:

"A man who proposes, must have set his eyes upon a woman, when he was ordered to lower his gaze. He must have thought about her, let himself be raptured, and then making use of the loophole in the law, went ahead to justify and legalize his indiscretionary actions."

How on Earth is a man supposed to propose to a woman without setting his gaze on her? How would you do it? Besides, it is permissible to look at a woman for the purpose of seeking a wife. I can give you reference from Bukhari if you like.

You said >>> Before I answer this, let me know which man in his right frame of mind will accept the hand of a woman he has not seen.

Your contradictions are very amusing. If one looks at a woman, then he is guilty. If he does not look at her before proposing, then he is naive.

Now answer my question please. Assume that the man looks at the orphan for a second only, talks to her wali who being poor himself cannot afford to keep her. The man has no lust in his heart and feels pity for the way the girl is in, old and dirty clothes full of pathces, bare feet, dust all over, hungry and  weak. He decides to marry her for the sake of Allah only.

Your proposition requires him to seek permission from first wife which might not be possible due to lack of communication. This prevents him from doing a noble deed and possibly saving another human being from a life of a destitute or possibly starvation and disease. She might end up living like a beggar or go into prostituition to support herself. This is true today for many Afghan war widows and orphans in Pakistan.

And if you think, this is a very unlikely event, then think again. Have you read about the men who left their homes for jihaad in Chechya and Afghanistan? I recommend you read about them, this is how they live in jihaad fee sabeel-lil-lah.

I would like to end by agreeing with you that the husband should not hide his other marriage from first wife. I would disagree with you by saying he does not need her permission to marry again.[/quote]

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