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[quote]AOA Waseem

It is very difficult to have a meaningful dialogue if you keep jumping from issue to issue. It becomes a game of cat and mouse Ah! I have got you there. Lets clarify one or few points at time and then time permitting we can discuss others.
We started with the word darba. You appear to dismiss this by saying majority of Translations & if that is going to be level of our discussion then you are perfectly right as the majority are with you. However if you have other logical explanation of why you disagree then I am all ears.

I have given you explanation & verses re- polygamy and my view is very clear, other than repeating this view I am not sure what your point is.

As for slavery I have given you the references earlier. I will be happy to discuss why you dont think it abolishes slavery.
Interpertation of anything is always is very contentious. Before we even get that far we have to establish the meaning of a particular word or verse. All I am trying to do for my own benefit is to establish the correct meaning. Try getting of this site for a while and carry out some further research and it might just challange what you concieve to be the truth.
I have had a similar conversation with a very learned Arab friend, who considered himself to be an expert on Arabic language he also rubbished my views on the word darba. I simply asked him to cross refernce it in the Quran and try to establish possible alternative meanings. He was quite astonished and now does not believe the word darba means to beat in the verse concerned. What and how you believe is purely up to you. I am quite happy with my own approach.
Just a note, many of Muslims often justify cerain view points by pointing to what the majority believe, well if you are going to adopt this approach then why not go the whole way as majority of the population on this  planet do not believe in the Quran or the last prophet.

You have mentioned Kashans article:

Did I read it incorrectly or did he not give different meanings for the word darba.
It is not my defence. It is bit pointless defending something if I do not have clear understanding myself.
[b]Yes I do believe [/b] the majority of translation are wrong...it is not a defence but I have taken the effort to find out for myself so at least if I am wrong then it is not because I am not trying.
You yourself raised the point (&correct me if I am wrong) that the beating, polygamy, slavery are issues which apply to that time only and have no place in modern society. My friend my simple question to you then is why are you a muslim. A belief in something so divene & then dismissing it as being irrelevent at different times does not, to me at least, seem to believe in soemthing very divine...please give this some thought.[/quote]

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